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1793 Chain Cent

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 Posted 10/21/2011  3:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add scubu to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
No certification and 31 bids as of this posting... Thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...130588203369
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 Posted 10/21/2011  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jamwins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My only thought is that's a TON of money to spend on a single coin!
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 Posted 10/21/2011  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm...is there something wonky about the lettering on LIBERTY, or are my eyes playing tricks?

Update: I thought the "R" in LIBERTY looked odd, but it appears to match the S-3. Still...I would only buy this coin slabbed or from an early copper expert.

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The ebay coin is also consistent with the S-3's fraction on the reverse:

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10/21/2011 4:29 pm
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 Posted 10/21/2011  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller lends some credibility that its legit but unless I knew the coins diagnostics well I would not bid on it. If I had that kind of money to spend on a cent like that I would deal with someone or a company that specializes in that coin.
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 Posted 10/21/2011  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bidding is not done yet. Still in the low ball. I'm sure you checked the Red Book. Wish I had one in that range. Good luck Bidding.
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 Posted 10/21/2011  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't buy this coin raw.
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 Posted 10/21/2011  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Anarchus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with Vermont... If you play with fire like that, you're bound to get burnt... That said, if you have money like that, why wouldn't you buy a graded example?
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 Posted 10/25/2011  02:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What feature(s) would make this coin worth $ 16,300, the winning bid on ebay?
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 Posted 10/25/2011  03:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought immediately that this was an electrotype...I am probably wrong, but I would never touch anything like that raw unless I really knew what I was doing. Pouring over thousands of 1800s silver coins has made me feel safe bidding on expensive silver since I will authenticate after the fact and send it back if its fake (and I can spot the majority of fakes, pointed them out to unaware sellers many times) but not copper and certainly not in the $10000 range. Actually, I wouldn't touch anything like this period, because I don't have much faith in TPGs anyway, fake slabs circulating, etc.
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 Posted 10/25/2011  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What feature(s) would make this coin worth $ 16,300

A Chain Cent with a strong date is a very valuable coin. Even a slick FR2/PO1 example with only the chain visible is a multi-thousand dollar coin.
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 Posted 10/25/2011  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add delaner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was watching this one carefully and I never doubted its authenticity. I looked at it closely and it looks every bit legit to me. I'd buy it raw all day long (had I stashed away that many shekels) - not sure if I'd buy it from this seller. Not a bad seller, but a coin like this I'd prefer to get from one of the big copper dealers as they usually guarantee authenticity for life, et cetera - and they have a lot more to lose if something goes wrong.

Anyway, this is a chain in the VF range - REALLY nice surfaces for a chain (could net VF to the right person) and that's a GREAT buy. It's easily worth twice that much to the serious copper collector.
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 Posted 10/26/2011  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Something like this kind of money is chancy on e-Bay particularly from a seller that isn't known for dealing in early American Coppers. Getting it authenticated by an expert and not necessarily from a major TPG is a good idea.
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 Posted 10/26/2011  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if the purchaser will come through with the money? I'd be very leery of spending a lot of money for a coin on ebay, especially that much.

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