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"Tilted" Mercury Dime

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 Posted 10/22/2011  12:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lobby to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Folks, pls check out this dime I've got.





Note in the 1st photo that the reverse is "tilted" or off-axis from the obverse.

What's the numismatic term for this?

Does this enhance the coin's value?
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 Posted 10/22/2011  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your talking about a rotated die but I cant tell from the pictures.
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 Posted 10/22/2011  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lobby to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look at the cardboard holder. The tops are aligned.

Note that the bust of Mercury is mostly up and down. But the reverse is tilted to the right. A bunch.


I noticed this as I was scanning the holder. I couldn't get the Obverse and Reverse to line up. I had to tilt the holder...
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 Posted 10/22/2011  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice 21 you have there, it should be worth some money on that alone, If it is a rotated die it will make the value go up. I usually send in my coins with a variety or error and get them slabbed and attributed because I have the same problem trying to convince people that a coin has a RPM or DD and telling them over and over "its right THERE!"
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It looks like a die rotation to me. I am curious about what going on with the MM. It looks like there's a potted plant there.
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 Posted 10/22/2011  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a flat out 1921 P dime.

MM is always on the reverse for Mercury dimes.
As for the rotation, 5-15° is the norm for this series, 90° and above is where you see the premiums, if its 180° that would be grand.

Edit: I forgot to say yours is about 45°, so there should be slight premium.
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The die rotation looks less than 30 degrees to me. Mercury is facing 10 degrees down on the obverse, which would be 10 degrees subtracted from the obverse photo.

This will have virtually no premium over an already valuable 1921. Nice coin, though!
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Definite rotated die, about 30 degrees (clockwise). Minor rotation is common for early Mercs but at the 30-degree level it starts to become significant and might add a little value. You could have it certified by ANACS but the fee might cost more than the added value from certification.

Cool coin regardless!
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Thanks, folks.

Here I was thinking I had a $20k coin.
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macmercury -- all I can say is 'oops'. I was looking in the wrong place -- but I still can't tell what's going on to the right of the bust's neck. I suppose it is just wear.
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Buddy, that is the location of the designer initials(AW)

A rotated die will not add any premium to this coin since it is already a semi-key date with a premium price. Even if it was just a regular Merc, added value would be minimal as it is not difficult to find Mercury dimes with a slightly rotated reverse.
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 Posted 10/24/2011  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lobby to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's on ebay right now. Let's see what happens...
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Thanks biokemist! I'd be lost without you!
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I was going to ask if rotated dies had a premium on mercs
I noticed a handful of them in my collection now that I got them out of flips and into dansco albums
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 Posted 11/04/2011  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know! It's like they're all about 10 or 15 degrees off. All right, not all of them but it isn't unusual.
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