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1988 Loon Dollar Revisited

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 Posted 11/01/2011  10:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Zimmy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Attached are better images of the 1988 Loon Dollar struck through a washer that I originally posted several months ago.....with some controversy (even though Mike Diamond authenticated it). Some felt my error was made post mint and that it could be duplicated. I hope these images put that to rest. I also attached a Canadian quarter struck through a thin planchet, which again confirms that a weak image can show through even though thin metal came between the die and planchet.

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 Posted 11/01/2011  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zimmy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, I forgot to mention that it is now authenticated by NGC too.
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 Posted 11/02/2011  12:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think those are cool. Looks real nice on the dollar with great placement. Truely rare, nice finds.
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 Posted 11/02/2011  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zimmy...Where on earth do you find these type of errors, in circulation, buying them off a coin store, or where....?
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It is rare to find any major error in circulation. They tend to get picked off very early on. Visiting coin shows and personal contacts are my best ways of running into something of interest.
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Does the obverse of that Loon dollar show any effects of striking through something that thick?
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No. It's normal. I should have shown both sides but there was an earlier thread of mine that showed the obverse before the coin was slabbed. That thread contained a whole lot of discussion as to the coin's authenticity.
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Are you sure it was struck through a washer? Did the RCM produce any foreign coins in 1988 with that diameter and a hole in the middle? It is a bit of a head scratcher, as to why some of the die's devices were imparted through the washer - unless it was a rubber washer or an aluminum washer. Thanks for sharing.
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Hi Zimmy, congrats on the certification!
I must admit I was one of the doubters in the original post. Not that you don't have a very interesting coin in fact I am glad you found more support for its authenticity. However, I still have my doubts about it. As SPP mentioned, the washer was something thin enough to let some of the image to transfer through while still strong enough to leave the washer impression (this material is a head scratcher).

Did NGC offer any further explanation?
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if the metal is thin enough, die details will transfer to the struck coin. That is why I supplied the quarter as another example of this design transfer. Another common example is a coin struck through a thin capped die. I am guessing that the washer was relatively thin to allow for this transfer. This is a very common occurrence in error coins. My original post also included images of US coins struck through clad layers that produced the same effect. Mike Diamond also gave his opinion. Based on his credentials in the error hobby, I don't know of too many more people that would be more qualified than him in the error field. One thing for sure, not everyone always agrees and that is what makes things interesting.
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 Posted 11/19/2011  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add splatto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was an initial doubter as well zimmy, but I'm really happy to be wrong in this case. Congratulations, this is a great coin and a big win for you!
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 Posted 11/20/2011  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zimmy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Splatto......the images I posted on this thread were actually better than the original post.......making it easier to reach a conclusion on its authenticity.
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