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I've been reading many a post, and some have shown stacked photo's,, I tried googling the process but its really flaky..
Wondering if someone can make the process simpler... I took 3 shots, at the same settings, just different lighting,,same apeture and and shutter speed to combine the overall features,
Any ideas of a simple method?Process...Thanks...G
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The "stacking" we're discussing here is focus stacking, a method for increasing depth of field. You take a series of images under identical conditions, changing only the focus point, and then you use proprietary software to join those images into one final image with the full depth of field. It takes the sharpest areas of each image and combines them.

The tradeoff to greater magnification is lesser depth of field. It's highly unlikely that you would end up needing the technique when shooting full-face images of a coin, unless you're looking for that last two percent of quality. And note, as Ray has mentioned here, the improvement in quality will likely not be visible once you've put the image into a format for posting it online.
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As SuperDave mentions, focus stacking is mostly needed for higher magnifications. It can be a benefit when doing variety photos at 3:1-5:1. Above 5:1 or so it is mandatory. For normal full-face images of Dollar size coins (mag ~0.5 on APS-C) you won't need to stack even at f4. The only time you might want to stack at that mag is if you are significantly tilting the coin for lighting effects.

If you want to look into this further, here is a link to the CombineZ Yahoo Group. You can follow links and download the CZ stacking software for free. You'll need to learn the workflow, but it's not too difficult.

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/combinez

You can also use this software to do multi-image merging (non-stacked). The "Do Weighted Average" macro is what I used to show the combined lighting technique in a previous thread on this forum.

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While on the topic, Ray - is CombineZ a worthy Open Source solution, or should I spend the money on Zerene Stacker? I tend to support Open Source when possible, just on principle, but if Zerene is noticeably more accurate I'll go for it.
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I can't answer that, having never tried Zerene. Most of the really nice stacked photos I've seen are made with Zerene, and from what I've heard Zerene is easier to use, but that you can get essentially the same result from CZ. Being open source, CZ is more "programmer" friendly and as such has a customizable macro interface that lets you create macros for bulk processing, etc. Since you are a fan of Gimp as your processing tool, I think you'll have no issue making the most of CZ. Plus it's a great way to start since it's free...Ray
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Yeah, the bulk-processing macro is a killer feature for my intended usage. CZ it is, then.

I just finally took delivery this morning of the desk/workstation for my lab; not owning a car has its' downfalls. I've been working from my ancient shop table:

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Doesn't really lend itself to delicate optics and handling coins.

As of Friday I'm off for 9 days, so the lab gets set up this weekend and I hope to publish the first results article during the week.
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Most probable, is you have not enough desk space, I have the same issue, I have to push everything back to the monitors to put a coin on the table... squeeze in the lights and I still have to pony up a tri pod to the table, As I dont have a "copy stand" yet that only works on smaller Macro lenses, get over 75MM and I need much more lenght to focus...
If I can just quit reading these posts I can get back to taking pictures LOL...I got my new Cheapo lens in the other day LOL....my son had it for 2 days before I k=knew it was here...But at least I was able to get some remodeling done,,,
other wise I would be here,,,Addiction comes in many forms
Thanks guys, Stacking, is a feature I most likely don't need, but should be aware of and how to do it in my eventual post processing knowledge I have yet to learn..
I'm still working on the lenses, there qualities and there usage for coins, which is very much different from normal camera usage, This forum, has had some simple understandings to the EXTREME insight to the subtleties
of using a camera for what and how we want to do...Many thanks to all of you,
Especially Dave and ray, who have many a thread of general point and shoot technique's to complicated bellows and manual control of the camera.. Showing the important relationships of the fundamental's of lighting, apeture,
and shutter speeds, from the changes of these settings these variables and the out come from these changes that help us to understand the final picture....
It's from this shared knowledge we can apply to the lens or camera we have that helps us get the most out of what we are working with...My many thanks to all who contribute to this forum...
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