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I found this in a little antique store today. How would you grade it? Thanks for any info.   This is the best I can do as far as pictures, I only have my phone with me. Edited by beachloan
11/09/2011 2:25 pm
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I will throw one out. How about G6. Assuming it's real?
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What are you seeing or what should I check to confirm that it is real?
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 It will need to be authenticated, but G6 is the right ballpark. Possible cleaning, but hard to tell from these pictures. (The pictures are too small to tell if its real or fake, but it's one of the most commonly counterfeited coins there is, so it has to be checked out as a matter of course) Edited by CaptainFwiffo
11/08/2011 8:16 pm
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Do you mind saying how much you paid for it?
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Oih82w8....I paid $550.00
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If its real and not cleaned you got a great deal! Mintmark looks funky from here but I believe its PMD |
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Bigger pictures would help. From what I can see G6 or so.
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I can get some better/larger pictures tomorrow. Thanks for having a look.
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I think I might go VG. No way to tell if it's real or not from the pics. Besides this coin attracts the best of the best as far as fakers. It might be fake, but look real even with better pics. Someone at a TPG needs to look at these things for a while to make sure. The price could be looked at either way. Either you got a great deal or if its fake, you got a really really bad one. Thing is, right around the $400 to $700 is where a lot of the fake ones tend to be sold at. The fakers know that if they price it less people would be too suspicious and if they go higher, only the scrutinizing buyers will remain. They know that little area in between is where some people take a shot at it because the buyers can't resist the deal. If you got this anywhere other than a reputable dealer I'd be very concerned. edit...to say, oh crap, I just re-read your post. You got it at an antique store? Even if that person wasn't ripping you off, whoever sold it to them probably was. They are rarely qualified to authenticate something like this. I'm changing my tone to "extremely concerned". Edited by hesgut
11/08/2011 11:29 pm
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I hope you can return it if it's not genuine. This is the most commonly seen counterfeit out there.
It does look roughly G06 and will require professional authentication.
Best of luck.
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The mm looks funny and coin appears cleaned. Assuming it's genuine, G6, might make VG8 Details.
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Can't say too much without good pictures, especially around the MM area.
Did the dealer offer to take it back assuming that if is not real?
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Here's a photo of a PCGS-certified example graded G-6. Note that there is a distinct open area inside the D mintmark. The shape of that area is diagnostic, resembling a distorted triangle. The mintmark on your coin is about the right shape and is in the right location but it is "filled", without a visible open space. That could be a red flag. You need to communicate with the antique shop about your purchase. It needs to be authenticated and they should be willing to refund your money if it comes back as "questionable authenticity" or "added mintmark". As stated, this is one of the most counterfeited coin in all of numismatics. Caveat emptor!  Whoa, 3000 posts!  Edited by Jaobler
11/09/2011 3:00 pm
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I can see the opening under a 60x loupe. I have inverted the colors to get rid of that annoying black spot and messed with the contrast a little, it is somewhat visible now.  Congrats on #3000 Jaobler! Edited by beachloan
11/09/2011 4:04 pm
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