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First of all, I'm so confused in trying to learn about the TPG's and what to do with my two 25th Anniversary Sets still sealed in the box. I want to keep one Set for sure. I am not now, nor have I ever been, nor do I ever want to be ..... a member of EBAY. But I'll do whatever I need to do, to get the most money possible out of the one available Set I'll have for sale. I do not care if "my" Set is slabbed or not, but I need to maximize the potential profit on the other one. Since the slabs fit into the nice blue Mint case, this would be okay. I have never collected "slabs". I've only sent one coin off for grading IN MY LIFE ! Cost is a huge issue for me right now. So, which is the most cost effective way for me to go here ? I've heard that with NGC, I'll have to "join" the A.N.A. FIRST, before I can submit my Sets. So I'll have a membership fee PLUS the certification fee ? That's a dealbreaker for me. I can't see how doing this will benefit me the most....  I never plan to have to send off another coin in my life. I've heard that ANACS will certify a coin as part of this "Set", but another one won't. And that ANACS doesn't need the original shipping box sealed. There's so much more information out there in all of these threads....but my dilemma is that it's all a foggy confusing mess to me that I don't understand. So "this" topic is designed and intended specifically pertaining to these two Sets that I have, and specific to ME with " my" situation... I want and NEED some feedback on what I should do with my box.So, would folks be crystal CLEAR on what I should do and with which grading service " I " should use. And keep in mind, again, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THESE TPG'S AT ALL ! Basically......... just good advise please ! ..... 
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11/21/2011 12:48 pm
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I have been with ebay for quite some time, yes their fees are getting outta control, but (IMO) that would be the way to go for MAXIMIZING your profit. However, since you are not a member you would be starting off at ZERO feedback, which a lot of people shy away from. However since it is a HIGHLY desirable ASE 25th Anniversary set we are talking about, there are buyers (bidders) who may look the other way, since you have one and they WANT one. Or you could have it listed with someone you trust here in the CCF post it for you, and then you could send it to whomever is the high bidder. You and the ebay poster would have to have a lot of trust with one another; one could shaft the other. I would offer some form of compensation to the ebay lister to "make it worth their while". Send them in to ANACS (after you cherry-picked out your set to keep), no fees to join, and then list them (through a trusted individual) on ebay for more profit potential. Selling it here at the CCF would be a noble gesture and I know that there are those here who did not get theirs from the mint, but (IMO) ebay would best for maximizing profit. Someone tried to sell sealed box of four last week, I'm willing to bet that it did not sell for the price listed. Penny for my thoughts, but I'll give my Two Cents worth! ...and you are not alone with your quest; https://goccf.com/t/103232Heck, you are in the thread as well!  Edited by oih82w8
11/21/2011 10:43 am
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You have a dilemma, You want to maximize profit without added expense. It has always been my belief that you need to spend money to make money. In my opinion PCGS is the best route to maximize profit, unfortunately even the extra $90 a set for First Strike. However in your shoes I would just open and sell 1 set on ebay or this forum. I sold 1 open set on ebay for $800 Shipping $17 ebay Fees $50.50 Paypal Fees $23.50 Cost $300 Profit $409 But the final decision must be yours and the misses Good Luck Edited by wif99
11/21/2011 3:57 pm
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I sold my set on ebay for $758.99 with free shipping plus insurance and signature confirmation, so my profit is less than what most other gotten. But a profit is a profit, and is over 100%. No complain. A dealer in my area want to buy a set from me for $600, he had problem of getting it online or calling the Mint like many other, even with confirmation that he would get a set. I might just do that to avoid ebay all together. |
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Is there a "join up" fee to P.C.G.S. ?
And what is the cost for the submittal of my two Sets ?
And shipping costs for the 7 and 1/2 pound box ?
Total cost for sending to P.C.G.S. ?
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First...to be clear BOTH NGC and PCGS require a membership in order to submit. NGC will let ANA members submit but, as you have mentioned, there is a fee involved with that..ANACS is a much cheaper option and it will serve the purpose of getting them in a slab. It will add minimal value to the set but the cost is also minimal so it's kind of a wash. With only two sets, and the total lack of interest in future submissions, I would sell one opened set and keep one. Pointless to join a company for this one submission. You can try various forums Buy/Sell threads first and ask a reasonable price maybe even discounting because of no need for ebay or PayPal fees. Second choice would be ebay which I have used for many years and have sold and purchased MANY coins. Downside would be figuring out how to post and having zero feedback which can sometime hurt the seller. It would be better to find a friend with good feedback that is an established seller and let him sell it. If you sell one you will have a free set to keep in your collection. How you eventually sell one of your sets is another story. Good luck |
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PCGS and NGC join feed are right in the same ballpark BUT PCGS is way more expensive for submissions.
PCGS is $14 + $18 (FS) so $32/coin or $160/set (plus shipping both ways and $20 to return your Mint presentation boxes)
NGC is $17/COIN SO $85/SET (plus shipping) only $2 to return your boxes) There is no extra charge for the Early Release designation (vs, $18 for PCGS)
ANACS is $10/coin and do NOT want the Mint boxes shipped to them. No ER or FS
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With only two sets, and the total lack of interest in future submissions, I would sell one opened set and keep one. Pointless to join a company for this one submission.  With that said, To each his own, I Prefer PCGS and do not buy any others unless I plan to crack it out. Yes PCGS charges $18 a coin for First Strike,and that program includes the cost of returning the original mint packaging. with most eagles First Strike commands more money. Back to your dilemma, I heard in another post that Coast To Coast is offering 750 per set. Edited by wif99
11/21/2011 3:56 pm
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With that said, To each his own, I Prefer PCGS and do not buy any others unless I plan to crack it out.
Yes PCGS charges $18 a coin for Early release,and that program includes the cost of returning the original mint packaging. with most eagles Early Release commands more money. Buying someone else's PCGS submission if fine. Paying close to $1000 to get a box of 5 sets PCGS graded yourself is another thing. Also, PCGS is now charging $30 to have those 5 boxes returned so disregard what it says in the First Strike policy. Revision made a couple of days ago ($20 for the 2 boxes) |
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PCGS is now charging $30 to have those 5 boxes returned so disregard what it says in the First Strike policy. Revision made a couple of days ago ($20 for the 2 boxes)
That is Robbery, Glad Mine was sent in before the policy change. My OGP is already on its way home |
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I spent the better part of the day these coins were released trying to buy one to no avail. I find it somewhat distasteful all the talk about selling such and such a set for the most money possible after speculators bought all of the sets they were allowed to buy per mint rules. I understand that the poster is not trying to come off as a jerk- but is trying to get good information- but I wanted to make it known that there are several other members here who just want to own one of these sets and the implication that other members are scurrying to make a quick buck is not what the hobby should be about. that said, you will get the most on your "investment" by joining PCGS at $199 which gets you 8 free submissions.
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that said, you will get the most on your "investment" by joining PCGS at $199 which gets you 8 free submissions.
The OP has no interest in sending any more coins to be graded. That $199 with 8 "free" submissions is kind of a loser when you do the math. $14 x 8 = $112 add the normal joining fee of $49 you get $161. It's cheaper without the "free" submissions.... Don't forget the $18/coin FS fee not included with the "free" submissions |
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That is Robbery, Glad Mine was sent in before the policy change. My OGP is already on its way home  |
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I do not think ANACS will put a label for the "set" that is why they do not need the mint box, so I believe that one is out of the question for you since you "need to maximize profit" . NGC and PCGS has a membership fee to join but ANA members get to submit to NGC without joining their "club". If you want the OGP back it will cost you 30.00 bucks over the submission cost to get them back from PCGS, not sure about NGC but am pretty sure they charge as well. If you do not pre-pay the fee to get the OGP sent to you then you will not receive them back |
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Quote:I do not think ANACS will put a label for the "set" that is why they do not need the mint box, so I believe that one is out of the question for you since you "need to maximize profit" . NGC and PCGS has a membership fee to join but ANA members get to submit to NGC without joining their "club". If you want the OGP back it will cost you 30.00 bucks over the submission cost to get them back from PCGS, not sure about NGC but am pretty sure they charge as well. If you do not pre-pay the fee to get the OGP sent to you then you will not receive them bac 1)ANACS DOES put 25th Anniversary SET on the label of opened sets...really, they do 2)you still have to pay to join ANA ($70) 3)NGC charges $1/set to have the packaging returned |
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if you wanted to send it to pcgs I am sure I could help you out. I have a pcgs account if your interested. If you decide to join up the best option is to get the one where you get 8 free submissions. I dont think you can use this set under that policy though.
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