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1831 Capped Bust Half (Opinions Please)

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Here is a pretty nice 1831 Capped Bust Half. Looking for your unabridged (good or bad :D) opinions. Let them fly, don't hold anything back. :)

Thanks for looking
Ben
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I'll say nothing bad about that coin. It's precisely what I'm looking for in my little Bustie effort - nice, dark, VF-ish examples. The reverse is just the *slightest* bit weak for me, but I'd have definitely scarfed it if I'd been around when it sold.
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My opinion is that that is a very nice coin. I like the fact that it has a little bit of dark coloring to it, that adds character and also makes it clear that it wasn't cleaned which is so common in bust halves.

I'd grade it around VF-20, and if I was looking to add a bust half of this grade, I would jump at this coin if the price is right!

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Beautiful 1831 Capped Bust Half. Stunning dark background color. F12 Clasp at shoulder shows wear and hair curl has considerable wear to grade any higher. I don't see any problems with the coin and I would be proud to own this one.
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Ben, I have nothing but praise for this coin. It's no secret that I prefer these in circulated grades because I like the way they tone and wear. Given the detail that remains on the forehead curls and clasp, I'd say it's in the F15 range. It may go to VF, but it's hard to tell how much of what I'm seeing is due to wear and how much to a weak strike. If we used F17 as a grade, that's what I would call it.

I was trying to attribute it and it doesn't seem to meet all of the criteria for any of the varieties. Because of the wear, it's difficult to see any of the shield line extensions, though. Your pictures are great. I was able to blow them up pretty large on my computer, but the closest I can find would be O-101 and I don't think that's correct. The two 1's in the date have had the serifs recut and that is not one of the markers for the 101. I'm looking at the position of the first T in STATES also and can't find any of the varieties that show that much of a difference in height. What did you come up with for attribution?
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No idea. I really don't have the coin in hand yet and I'm too lazy to go get the "Book" and check it out. Just got back from feeding the animals and I'm beat...

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Very nice look and appears problem free. About a F15.
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Originally posted by Susanlynn9

Ben, I have nothing but praise for this coin. It's no secret that I prefer these in circulated grades because I like the way they tone and wear. Given the detail that remains on the forehead curls and clasp, I'd say it's in the F15 range. It may go to VF, but it's hard to tell how much of what I'm seeing is due to wear and how much to a weak strike. If we used F17 as a grade, that's what I would call it.

I was trying to attribute it and it doesn't seem to meet all of the criteria for any of the varieties. Because of the wear, it's difficult to see any of the shield line extensions, though. Your pictures are great. I was able to blow them up pretty large on my computer, but the closest I can find would be O-101 and I don't think that's correct. The two 1's in the date have had the serifs recut and that is not one of the markers for the 101. I'm looking at the position of the first T in STATES also and can't find any of the varieties that show that much of a difference in height. What did you come up with for attribution?



Dear Susan,

I just went thru the book for 1/2 an hour and I can't attrtibute this one from the pictures. It looks somewhat like the O-101 you came up with, but star 7 in the books example and the one on the coin are nothing alike so..., also the chin doesn't look right either.

Going to have to have the coin inhand or an accurate attribution.

Thanks for looking
Ben
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I totally dig this coin.....If you ever want to part with it.......
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I snagged it today on ebay, they're still amazingly cheap...
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describe "amazingly".......lol !
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Digger, I ask the same question, what is amazingly cheap? I am looking at a 1837 with about the same obverse and a slightly stronger reverse as the PLURIBUS is strong. I am interested in purchasing and he is asking $75.00 which seems alittle heavy to me. How does that compare to yours?
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I paid $68 for this one, and apparently it's an attribution I don't have so... That's even better :)

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I'm going to be the odd person out here but I am not all that fond of dark or even toned coins. The shinier the better and if it looks like it just came out of the mint's press then it works for me. I am just weird that way I guess. Although this coin is nice looking it is just my personal preference to have something less circulated. That is probably why I don't get alot of coins these days. LOL. I am way too picky and have to find a way to overcome that to ever complete a set someday.

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If you're looking for "shiny" coins, they better be choice Unc or better. If they're over 80 years old (or even newer), chances are it has been dipped. Hopefully, someone cleaned/dipped it very carefully. Also, you want to be sure there aren't a myriad of hairlines all over the surfaces of the coin. This type of choice material is very tough to find and has prices to match. If you blindly buy the "shine" you'll regret it when you sell.
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I think it's amazing that these coins can be purchased for under $100 in very collectable grades. I consider them cheaply priced. I wouldn't be surprised to see this series start to go up in the next couple of years. It's very popular with collectors.
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