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I got a 7070 type book for Christmas and being an error collector and all and not used to buying "old" coins except for the rare old error that is affordable. Man that type book is dangerous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Had half the book filled from my collection but had to buy something, well I have already bought 3 pieces. Had to buy another as this "seemed" like a good price...is it? here is an auction that I won: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...67&rd=1&rd=1I don't know as much about older coins and I understand this one is conterfieted a lot. Well This one should be the real thing. Is it so bad being "cleaned"? Did I do the right thing for that price? thanks Edited by Errorcoins 01/04/2007 4:25 pm
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The coin went cheap. I guess you might have to see it in-hand to see how harshly cleaned it is. Most buyers, myself included, have been burned too many times by cleaned coins that have low resale value and steer clear of material like this. You'll have to tell us what you think when you get it. Personally, I typically only buy "crusty" coins that look like they've never been messed with and have a nice dove gray (for silver coins) look with some dirt in the crevices.
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I think thats one nice coin. I noticed that the seller is from Missoula, Montana. I'm from Great Falls, Montana (about 3 hours away). If your not happy just let me know and I'll go egg his house. Ty
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quote: Originally posted by Tykimeister
I think thats one nice coin. I noticed that the seller is from Missoula, Montana. I'm from Great Falls, Montana (about 3 hours away). If your not happy just let me know and I'll go egg his house. Ty
Ha , ha.... cool, thanks Tykimeister....we'll let you know It does seem like a really nice coin and I think I would rather have that than a fine or very fine example or risk bidding on a fake. This Coin will be the first one I crack open from a slab, but I know it's real and I bought it for the album so out with the hammer. Now I got to put about 200 dollars worth of bu bison nickels in coinstar to pay for it. (A good trade I think since I can't melt my bisons for scrap). I have listed many error coins on ebay to free up some cash for other holes in that DAMNED 7070 Album!!!!
Edited by Errorcoins 01/04/2007 12:07 am
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I think you did just fine on that purchase. ANACS is very respected and I personally wouldn't worry about cleaning. The coin looks good in the pics and the price is certainly right. I hope you will provide better pics when you have the coin in hand.
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Like it or not a GREAT deal of the old classics, at one point in time, have been cleaned. Regardless of how chosey we, as collectors, wish to be or think we are it is a fact WE all have owned cleaned coins. Its the ones with harsh cleanings that will make your blood boil especially if the coin is a high grade coin but was just dirty. The important point in all of this is whether or not you can live with the coin? It is your collection and getting a break now and then on some of the old classics due to a mild cleaning in the past is NOT a bad thing.
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Hey thanks for all the positive feedback. I thought it sounded like a very good deal. ok, here's another, pretty sure it's cleaned as well but I really like the eye appeal of this one cept for the small crack or gouge or hopefully planchet defect. 1807 Half Cent ..... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...09&rd=1&rd=1please let me know about the above Half Cent that was minted when Jefferson was in office, (now I have to have that silly wife series coin of Jefferson's term). Plus my son will be born in a month and a half so this is (his) coin being his birth year and all 2007 (1807) which bums out my 10 year old daughter as she already says she has dibs on the type set. The good thing about the 7070 is I only have to get one nice example of each. Errors are so much different to collect. On some it's either buy in now or lose it forever to someones collection. With type coins, there will always be more even though the prices are rising. PS found some cool die fills on Jefferson searching bison's to go to coinstar. have one on ebay, sorry for the plug. Have fun searching (Edited by Susanlynn9)
Edited by Errorcoins 01/04/2007 1:10 pm
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I think you got a good deal on that Half Cent. It's got a nice strike and looks original. I'd grade it at F12. The surfaces look nice and smooth and this coin has great eye appeal. If I collected these, I would have been willing to go to $120 or so to add it to my collection, so I think you did very well.  I had to edit out your offer to trade because it is in the wrong section. Please post it in the B/S/T section, though. You'll probably get some interest pretty quickly. I also edited the title of this thread so that our members will see that there is now also a Half Cent being discussed. 
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I was wondering who it was that sniped me at the last minute on that Half Cent. Now I know.
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quote: Originally posted by okie-colin
I was wondering who it was that sniped me at the last minute on that Half Cent. Now I know.
oooops ... sorry about that cheif there are a lot more nice ones out there if you look. Honestly ...... if you bid on anything on ebay ...there is only one way.. to snipe.....it offers you the lowest price or you lose it to an overbidder willing to pay more than you think the coin is worth, Keep looking peace PS I dind't win it in the last minute, I won it in the last 5 seconds.
Edited by Errorcoins 01/04/2007 4:18 pm
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Thanks again Susan .. I really liked the look of the coin. Being a photographer...I really look for coins with great eye appeal. Here's other one of the three I bought that I thought had great eye appeal for a type book. 3 cent silver (cleaned?) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...37&rd=1&rd=1I have stopped looking at ebay for type coins as I'm kinda out of control right now, thanks again
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quote: Originally posted by Prethen
The coin went cheap. I guess you might have to see it in-hand to see how harshly cleaned it is. Most buyers, myself included, have been burned too many times by cleaned coins that have low resale value and steer clear of material like this. You'll have to tell us what you think when you get it. Personally, I typically only buy "crusty" coins that look like they've never been messed with and have a nice dove gray (for silver coins) look with some dirt in the crevices.
 Errorcoins, please go back and re-read Prethen's post. Although there are times that it can not be avoided (mainly because of population restrictions and cost), buying problem coins can get you in trouble. There is a reason that Trade dollar went so cheap, and when a seller starts off on ebay with a whole blurb about how all coins have most likely been cleaned..........
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quote: Originally posted by Errorcoins
Thanks again Susan .. I really liked the look of the coin. Being a photographer...I really look for coins with great eye appeal.
Here's other one of the three I bought that I thought had great eye appeal for a type book. 3 cent silver (cleaned?)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...37&rd=1&rd=1
I have stopped looking at ebay for type coins as I'm kinda out of control right now,
thanks again
This coin doesn't quite sit right with me. It looks like it was improperly cleaned. Notice the dirt in the areas where they couldn't get to? The rim hit at about 7 o'clock on the obverse doesn't look too bad, but the overall look is a bit too whitish. Perhaps there's a ton of luster on the coin. There's one BIG tip-off to a problem though. The seller sounds like an idiot when he says that he can't detect all cleaned coins. Sure, that can be a problem where coins have been lightly cleaned a long time ago and have nicely retoned, but overall any decent numismatist can tell if a coin has been cleaned. This is just his way to make an excuse to sell problem coins and appear to be guilt free. By the way, notice how his return policy protects him from losing any money and allows him to keep 10% of yours as a penalty for being able to look at the coin?
Edited by Prethen 01/04/2007 5:36 pm
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Errorcoins, your enthusiasm is great. Please, don't let us squelch that for you. You have to be careful. Most of us, if not all of us experienced buyers, have been hurt with purchases we thought were good only find out we bought problems where the value was considerably less than we paid. True, these coins shouldn't normally be thought of as an investment, but you want to make sure you're buying right to have some sort of solid value built into your purchase in case you need to resell sooner than you think. If you like to see some original looking, problem-free (and/or "market-acceptable" type) coins, let us know what you'd like to see. I have a TON of coin scans from my personal collection I can share. I prefer to collect raw, circulated coins (other than the early proofs that are all in certified holders) and I try to image most of them. ebay attracts a lot of unknowledgeable buyers and there's a lot of junk on there. You have to tread a lot more carefully on there.
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One more thing... Just to give you some perspective, I recently won an item on ebay that has a perfectly good picture but I'm nervous nonetheless. Check out this thread....http:// (046) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed &threadid=560661.
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Prethen, thank you for the info and input. My main collection is error coins and 99.9 % have never been cleaned so it's not been a problem. As for these coin for the type set, well I'm just looking to get good examples of coins. Some of the 140 to 200 year old coins, I can accept a small amount of cleaning. A nice bu Trade dollar is about 500 bucks and this cleaned au58 certified coin was 200. I would think I could resell it for at leaast the same amount if I had to. I think I can live with the coin, but I don't have it in hand yet to make that judgement. Thanks again
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