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Odd 1964 Pennys

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I had a bit of a squizz in my pennys and found this.
I found the identical raised bits on 4 x 1964 All the pennys are aunc or better.
It looks like an inverted v pointing at the roos bum.
It looks like there might have been some damage to the die when minted, definatly not PMD because I found identical faults on 4 other 1964 pennys
Is this a common error?
Sorry forgot to add the pics


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i dont think I have any decent 64's to look at
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There are a few variations of the 4 on the 1964 pennies,i can't see your pics well enough to tell but I assume the 4's look a bit like this.

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There is a raised inverted V shaped bit from the top of the 9 pointing to the roos bum is the best way I can describe it
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maybe the roo farted when it was pressed?
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If I underestand trout, this one shows it best:

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I have a few penny's with marks like that,i assume it is die clash,a 43 I have has a few strange raised bits above the date.
Will see if I can find it in the next couple of days & take a pic.
If you compare that mark in position to the other side of the coin I think you will find it is where the Queen neck & jaw meet.
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Thanks bigfred thats what I am refering to
And with appleangel it is in the same position as the queens neck and chin.
i like erkles explanation the best
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Yeah,so die clash I would think ,maybe a slight strike through ?
A real expert might come along & confirm either way.
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I went through about 300 1964 pennys and found 4 of these.
I have 3 left I sent one to erkle
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I have a few penny's with marks like that,i assume it is die clash,a 43 I have has a few strange raised bits above the date.
Will see if I can find it in the next couple of days & take a pic.
If you compare that mark in position to the other side of the coin I think you will find it is where the Queen neck & jaw meet.

sorry dont know how to quote.
if the queen is pushing through the coin to mark the other side, what sort of error is it? I can even work out how that could happen, but I dont know the full details of how the mint them either.
could it be a thin blank? but that would cause a weak strike.
any way it happened, I'm stoked to have one :)
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In quick reply, you use [ quote ] and [ /quote ], without the spaces. In reply to topic, it's that paper with the arrow on the top near the right.


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if the queen is pushing through the coin to mark the other side, what sort of error is it?


That won't happen. A clash mark, caused when the dies come together without a blank, might.
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There were 64.59 million of the 1964 pennys made
10 million at the Melbourne mint and 54.59 million at the Perth Mint.
The highest mintage of any Aussie penny
I have no idea why they minted so many when the government must have had the plans on the table to convert the country to decimal currancy.
The pennys and halfpennys were replaced in 1966 with decimal coins.
However the fart pennys I found all came from the Perth Mint.
Those machins would have been running flat out to produce so many coins for one mintage so the chances of a die clash is pretty good
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There were 64.59 million of the 1964 pennys made
The highest mintage of any Aussie penny
I have no idea why they minted so many when the government must have had the plans on the table to convert the country to decimal currancy.


My theory is (and this is pure speculation) that with no 1965 minting and with people hoarding large numbers of them prior to decimalisation, they would have had to have a large production run for them to last until d day in 1966.
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