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Will They Age The Queen Again? And Who Ages Her?

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Just wondering if anyone thinks they might age the queen again or will that be it? So she's forever youngish It seems roughly around the 20 year mark they change her so going off the queen mother she's still got a few change to come..maybe

And who says when the queen ages as I've noticed on other commonwealth contries coins that we all ages her roughly at the same time
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 Posted 12/27/2011  05:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think the current obverse is too bad.

Can you make her look any older than she already does on current coins and do so such that she still looks graceful?

As far as who instigates the change I have no idea.
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Ultimately, the Royal portraiture for official coins and medals has to be approved my the Monarch.

I would think the initial motivation for change would come from within the Mint. A great deal of artistic effort by Mint officials goes into the development of a new Royal portrait.
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I don't think they will change the current portrait as it is referred to as the "mature" portrait.

It will be a dilemma for the mint if the Queen lives as long as the queen mother. If the Queen reaches 100 then the current portrait will have been used for 27 years which would be some sort of record.

The change of monarch will be an interesting time. Not only will coin obverses have to be changed but our $5 note will also have to be changed. Also the RAMs habit of releasing Proof and Uncirculated coin sets in the preceding year could have interesting consequences.
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Just wondering if anyone thinks they might age the queen again or will that be it? So she's forever youngish...

I'd tend to agree; this will probably be the last portrait change for this monarch. Any new portrait that actually showed her age would look decidedly unflattering.

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And who says when the queen ages as I've noticed on other commonwealth contries coins that we all ages her roughly at the same time

Each country basically decides upon their own coin designs, and not all countries decide to change at the same time. Some countries can't be bothered keeping up to date. Fiji still uses the Maklouf portrait, and they've been a republic since 1987. Belize still uses the crowned, long-haired Cecil Thomas portrait from the 1950s, and Britain itself still uses the Gillick portrait on the Maundy coinage.

Many Commonwealth countries currently use the portrait selected and approved by The Royal Mint - a time-saver for them, since most of them get their coins struck by The Royal Mint anyway. Some of the larger countries have in recent years elected to use their own distinctive portraits - Canada, for example, skipped over the 1985 Maklouf portrait change and has used their own locally-designed royal portraits since 1990. Australia experimented likewise with the Gottwald portrait on the 2000 Royal Visit 50 cents.

I think this trend of purely national portrait designs will only become more pronounced and that the present monarch will be the last one to see a Commonwealth-wide unified coinage portrait. For the next monarch, each of the larger countries will probably commission and use their own royal coinage portrait.
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I used the term 'Mint' in a generic manner, keeping in mind the way the RCM has done things.

There are also many different current portraits of the Queen on stamps and banknotes around the world.
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Whatever they do I hope they stick with the side view of the reigning monarch rather than a forward facing view like the US Jefferson nickel. In my opinion a forward facing view is okay for banknotes but doesn't translate well on coins.
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I just received the Jan 2012 edition of "Mint Issue" and on Pages 6/7 there are 2 sets of Queen's Diamond Jubilee coins for sale. One coin each from RAM, RM and RCM. On the RM £5 coin, the Queen has been aged significantly. 2 images from the book.
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I wonder if this image will go on GB circulation coins.
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The top portrait looks very reagal but the bottom one is just awfull
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It's the same portrait, just the image in the book is very grainy. Canada also have a different portrait, but it's a younger version which is representative of HM circa 1952/3.

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Try The Royal Mint website and click on the images. These are still Ian Rank-Broadley portraits.
http://www.royalmint.com/store/Brit...K12DJBU.aspx
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Thanks PPH. That's better!

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Pretty similar to the Victoria diamond jubilee medal
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Thanks very much people, excellent comments and thanks heaps for the pics I suppose we'll all have to just wait and see so then I'll be grabing what I can
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They should add her goofy glasses on there if they want a realistic depiction of her.
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I really like the young Elizabeth obverse. She was a very beautiful woman in her day.
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