Do Key Date Older Aussie Coins Sell Anywhere Near Cat Value?

It's a negative on china copy, I know the dude who makes them and it is not his work.
But copy's are made in America too, so don't be fooled into thinking that china is the only country that makes them so does Lithuania I think ?, cant be sure of the country name I seen them on ebay a few weeks ago, they make really crappy threepence copies.

The A's in Australia have flat bases not wavy

If you want a pre-decimal coin authenticated/valued then you can't go past Walter Eigener....http://www.numismatics.com.au/.
I doubt anyone would be better informed about pennies than him. He is in Canberra.

He also has some lovely coins for sale but mostly well above my hip pocket level.

Jeff

Ausjack what you refering to as Perls are in fact beads.
The Perls are in the band of the crown on the obverse.
The more Perls in the band the better the grade is a rule of thumb.
The beads in the inner circle of the reverse do tend to flatten and get closer together with circulation; it is another good way to tell the grade of a king George the fifth Aussie penny or half penny.
I have been collecting Aussie predecimals for a few years now and I tend to have a bit of an eye for them
I'm just waiting for Sel or Sap to buy into this, Instead of just sitting on the fence

I guess I could come in on this one. I have my doubts on it, unfortunately

Consider in detail, letter for letter, the words 'COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA', on the reverse of the two coins, on the comparative images that trout1105 has submitted.

The examination of comparative images is one of the most powerful techniques to determine the authenticity of a coin, and anybody who reads ths thread has the chance to do that for themselves. That would be educational for us all.

Gradually, you will come to appreciate why I have my doubts.

I have a buddy who works for I.S. Wright in Sydney, who would be able to to confirm or otherwise the authenticity of this coin at a glance. He has been a professional coin dealer for more than 4 decades. He has a reputation that is known thouughout the Australian coin dealing industry. I have sold valuable coins to him, he has sold valuable coins to me over many years.

The coin in question could be submitted to I.S. wright for their opinion. I.S. Wright is probably the biggest coin dealing business in Australia, with branches of their business in capital cities in Australia. No need to send the coin to me, send it to them, their expertise is way better than mine.

http://www.iagauctions.com.au/pichi.html

Pictured in the above link is a mint state example of the 1925 penny. The post about the base of the letters does make sense, however if this is a fake then it is one of the best fakes I've ever seen (it's wear and ageing is consistent with the grade, which is extremely rare for a fake).

If you are really uncertain maybe contact Chris Buesnell at pacific rim coins (he set up the Australian Coin Grading service) and probably knows about as much about coins as anyone else in Australia.

I don't really see any difference in details between the MS-64 and my coin. I managed to find a few more in the Heritage archives, and a few were slabbed EF-AU. All of them have the bottom of the A's and other letters wavy, just like my coin.

Oddly enough the prices for these examples are nowhere near a couple or few thousand. I guess that's because these were sold in US auctions and not in Australia?

http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...&lotNo=50147

http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...&lotNo=20244

http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...&lotNo=23059

http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...&lotNo=23062

dcoin: That's my feeling too. I have seen many counterfeits of many world coins. Even the ones with really good detail never match the wear pattern. That seems to be specific to the die, press and amount of pressure used.

Sel: That comparison coin has more wear, which is why the date and other characters seem wider and flatter. On my coin they are still rounded due to lack of wear, like the EF/AU examples from Heritage.

I e-mailed him the pictures and hope he responds!