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 Posted 01/08/2012  6:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add patsass to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

I need help identifying these errors and I'd like to know if they are worth keeping.

#1 - 25 cents 2011:
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#2 - 25 cents 2011:
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#3 - 25 cents 2011:
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#4 - 25 cents 2006:
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#5 - 25 cents 2011:
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Thanks!
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 Posted 01/08/2012  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see anything I'd identify as a die chip, most of the look like plating errors caused by incorrect planchet cleaning. Unfortunately the margin of error they are working with now is enormous. The lowest image features a bubble that occurred post strike, I'd like to sample those in a lab someday.
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 Posted 01/08/2012  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterious_dr_x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first two are dots, maybe the 1st one is worth a small something because it almost look like 2.5cents, some people like that.
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 Posted 01/09/2012  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
dont mean to hijack your thread (neat find btw, that has a lot going on),

but is there some sort of official guideline as to what constitutes an "error"? or at least seperates errors from imperfections?

i see coins on ebay listed as "major error" and all they have is a microscopic bit of extra metal. its like if it isn't ms65 its a "major error" (imperfection maybe, but error?). I know some of these sellers are just using buzz words but I think it confuses new collectors.

and the prices some of these guys are asking is crazy which leads the new collector to list for a crazy high amount also (sort of creating a false inflation of category of coins that arent really all that rare).

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 Posted 01/09/2012  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ugly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a matter of opinion. Some errors like brockages are easy to diagnose and carry a premium because they are wanted. Minor plating errors however are very common and don't attract much of a market.

Anything less than perfection could be argued to be an error, but the reality is some errors are uncommon and sought after, others are common and not sought after.

As to prices you can ask for as much as you want, it's much more a matter of what you actually get. I don't buy errors but lots of guys do, there is a market.

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 Posted 01/09/2012  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mysterious_dr_x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As ugly says, many things are considered errors and they are, but they're also minor and worthless. The error market is a bit of a jungle, since there is so many and there isn't as many references as there is for ordinary coins. It's important to do your research before you buy, and also know what you care for. For instance, I like errors in general, but I have a strong inclination toward die clashes. It's very hard to collect all types, you tend to get scatered. And when you just want to sell, you need to research to sell at a proper price, or else you might not get what you could.
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 Posted 01/09/2012  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Alan Herbert has written extensively on errors, as have a couple ccf posters.
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 Posted 01/10/2012  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add patsass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the information.

What about #3 looks like a metal accumulation. Is it a common error, any idea what is causing these?

Thanks again!
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 Posted 01/10/2012  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scissel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What about #3 looks like a metal accumulation. Is it a common error, any idea what is causing these?


It looks like Die Deterioration. Die Deterioration is fairly common - I have never noticed this exact type with deterioration in the antlers. It's interesting, but I doubt many collectors would pay a premium for it.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
, patsass!

There's no such thing as metal "accumulation", or "extra" metal. If there is raised metal on a coin, it's usually because the die was missing a chip, was cracked, etc.
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 Posted 01/14/2012  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinFan15 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"There's no such thing as metal "accumulation", or "extra" metal. If there is raised metal on a coin, it's usually because the die was missing a chip, was cracked, etc."

Plated coins are known to blister and that's what I believe is what you see in picts 1 and 2. Picts 3, 4 and 5 look like die chips.
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