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A New Roman For My Collection!

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With my birthday right around the corner I decided to treat myself a little early with something a little pricier than I usually go for. Here is my second denarius ever, of Domitian.

(seller's photo)
A-New-Roman-For-My-Collection!

Obv: CAESAR DIVI F DOMITIANVS COS VII, laureate head right
Rev: PRINCEPS IVVENTVTIS, Minerva advancing right, wielding spear and shield

RIC 268, mint not specified but I pretty sure Rome.
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 Posted 01/11/2012  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thats a very nice coin. Nice portrait and an interesting reverse.
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Striking coin!
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Nice nose. I doubt that Domitian has plastic surgery but it is interesting how the coins struck while Vespasian and Titus were alive show him with the family nose but the later ones as Augustus are not as hooked. I don't know which is correct.
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I recall from my art history studies @ the university that Roman art had two prevailing stylistic conventions in their statues. One of stark realism for public servants, more common in Republican times, which slowly gave way to more idealized features, particularly for the emperors. Whenever I look at Roman coins, I wonder how much is realism and how much is style?/idealization? I would suspect more stark features reflect an actual characteristic of their face. However, there is really little factual reference to know what they looked like?
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Nice coin and happy B-day Jango
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Thanks for commenting guys!

About the portraits, I would say that the earlier (1st century, 2nd century) coins had the most accurate portraits, since -I read somewhere- that when making the dies for the obverse they used marble head busts for references. Now, I don't know if later die engravers (after early 4th century) did the same thing, but I kind of believe they hardly did or not at all, since the portraits aren't at all as detailed as those coins from earlier centuries. I do wonder why late imperial coins' portraits look less artistic and more "cartoony" than earlier coins.
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My birthday is also this month, so if anyone wants to send my a present I like one of these. Happy Birth Day Jango.
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Thanks echizento and happy b-day to you too!
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Thanks.
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Just checking: only the city of Rome was allowed to mint silver coins at that time, am I right?
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As far as I know you are correct?
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Thanks echizento.
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Nice nose. I doubt that Domitian has plastic surgery but it is interesting how the coins struck while Vespasian and Titus were alive show him with the family nose but the later ones as Augustus are not as hooked. I don't know which is correct.


I know I posted this coin a couple of weeks ago so I will only attach the obverse image. I would suspect he had a typical Roman nose but later during his reign the die makers changed his profile to tone it down (probably at his insistence).

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I thought Romans generally favored the Roman nose? Or did Domitian himself just not like it and so had it less prominent on his coins during his rule? BTW nice obverse on your coin jw.
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It just arrived today! But I'm too lazy right now to post my own pics sooo.... basically in hand it kind of has that polished silver look but all the detail shown in the seller's pic is there and overall, I am happy with it. Anyone want to take a shot at guessing how much I paid?
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