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 Posted 01/13/2012  5:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coppertop to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I don't quite have the time to search slowly as many have suggested looking at every coin heads and tails slowly. What I have been doing is..
1. Double sort copper
2. Do a final sweep through zinc and pull any copper leftovers, wheats, special colored ones while searching following dates quickly...
3.

83. Check obverse especially 8 and 3 for DDO,liberty etc , check Reverse for DDR doubling
84 check date for doubling , check ear , and motto and liberty
88 check FG initials for transitional
92 CAM
94 check obverse pillars near initials for doubling , very noticable

95 check obverse for doubling in motto and liberty especially

96 obverse doubling in date 6 especially
97 check obverse ear
98 WAM
99 WAM
00 WAM
06 check ear n maybe flip back for doubling near Lincoln

ANDno major varieties , nothing found yet after going through $250 or so. Other people report A WAM in just a box or so .
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01/13/2012 5:33 pm
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 Posted 01/13/2012  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1922dubledie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
keep looking you will find something..I have gone through about 9,000-9,500 penny rollers and have found a lot of stuff. keep looking that's my advise.
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 Posted 01/13/2012  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pman860507 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What I do is.

open 5-10 rolls at a time.

Then I sort them by date.
Place them in my desk and one year at a time a look though them all.
then repeat.
I have not found anything yet either while roll searching but I have found a few RPM off wheat cents I bought off my dealer before. which I still have probably $50 in wheat cents to go though still.
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 Posted 01/13/2012  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timras14 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
when I search mine I have a nice process... I have been saving all copper 82 and earlier that I re roll and will sell once I get $100 FV. So I will have 4 different containers and a shoe box while I search. Go through each roll in the 4 different containers I put these coins
#1: 60PD,61D,63D,64,68D,69S,70S,72,80,and 82(copper)
#2: all copper pennies between 59-82
#3: 82(zinc),83,84,85D,87D,88,92PD,95PD,98,99,2000
#4: pre 1997 canadian pennies, off center/error pennies, wheat/indian pennies.

once I am tired of just looking for dates I will start searching with my magnifying glass for errors. I check container #1 for errors, if none found I put them in container #2 to be rolled and saved as copper. Then I search #3 for errors, if none found I will take those all back to the bank.

here are the errors I search for:
60pd-small date and d/d
61-d/horizontal d
63-63/63
64-ddr
68d-d/d
69s-double date
70s-double date
72-double liberty
80-double liberty
82-double one cent
83-ddr and DDO
84-ear
85d-d/d
87d-d/d
88-rev of 89(defined G in FG)
92pd-close am
95pd-liberty
98,99,2000-wide am

I have also found a bunch of coins with Machine Doubling and off center that I have sold on ebay anywhere from $.79 - $10.50 a coin, not much profit, but a GREAT ROI!
The canadian pennis actually have 98% copper content, so I roll those once I get 50 saved up.

I wish I could do better as well. I have only found one 1998 WAM, other than that just the semi error coins that I mentioned that I sell on ebay. Still waiting for a big scored!

feel free to ask any questions, or offer any advice on my strategy, thanks!
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01/13/2012 6:29 pm
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 Posted 01/13/2012  6:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its a numbers game and a hit or miss game. There are lots of minor DDRs you can find(if you want to). The rarer the error, the tougher it is to find. Keep looking-They're out there.
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Knowing the possibilities of varieties, I look at each coin to see what is present compared with other examples found in the same denomination.
This help me find a new variety a few years back. At the time 2004 cents were found with a doubled reverse on the EPU. So I determined that I would check all years of Memorial cents to see if this occured on other years of Zincolns. I found one of two found so far in the country.
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So by not limiting me to just the 2004, I found a new variety. So keeping an open mind new varieties can be found. Just remember what happened on the doubled dies and look for them on other years.
Doubled Ears, motto, LIBERTY, Date Eyelids, RPMs on obverses. Doubled bars, steps, devices on outer devices and EPU. Knowing what to look for helps us to be open about varieties, that they can happen on different years than what is known.

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Coppertop & timras14:
I sort out the copper coins and key dates but I don't just look for the "big ones". I search them all including all zinc.
If you are looking at a coin for WAM why not check the rest of the coin? You have all those copper at least search them for RPM. The more you limit your search the lower your chances of finding SOMETHING. A little something is better than a lot of nothing.
Check out this site http://traildies.com/
I found my first a couple weeks ago, now I wonder how many I missed. What about you, have you been overlooking these?
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01/13/2012 7:29 pm
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 Posted 01/13/2012  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coppertop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thx for replies guys
I appreciate the support
I guess the major problem is that the flow if pennies is kinda moving through steady. So the zinc is piling up, and it needs to be turned over rather quickly . While Is hate to do this, I just don't need cents piling up. The copper stack is building and I'm already going nuts because I need to search those for varieties, the zinc is just priority because it gets sent back. At first I wasnt searching, then I thought , well 92s , how can you not look for the elusive 92, then it was WAM , 88, lol OCD kicking in ?

Tim: quite a process :) wish you luck sir and don't forget there was a major DDO in 71 also that brings a good premium. If you ever need a hand setting up a cheap sort machine ,LMK #), not a Ryedale but its also not $500 but you could build a Ryedale with few hundred in parts, but there is definatley a respect I have for you true handsorters. And TBH most of the Ryedalers are well, there's a reason why I frequent these boards, just a totally difernt Vibe over there. Much respect sir
Coop: Totally here ya , thx for your POV on the whole variety searching. I have a few hundred of newish red zinc saved because I'd like to throw it under a scope and really have at it. Unfortunatley , I don't know if it'll be a reality for me, and with the dirty zinc stacking up , I just am not sure what to do :/ Thank you for your dedication to the community sir.
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If a coin is stained/off colored/nicked/zinc rotted.road rashed: I put them back to work ASAP. I don't even give them a first look. The BU coins from 2000 back I keep in case a new variety is discovered. Then I can re-look at them for a coin that someone would buy as a variety. I even give the BU's to new collectors to fill their books with. I search all coins that deserve attention under a scope. Then I toss them back. The problem with sending them back that would will probably see the same coins again. So keep the nicer ones and put the others back to work and buy more coins.
Location makes a big difference in find varieties. Philly area coins will have more doubled dies, RDV 006 coins, but the Denver coins area will have more RPMs available. So it depends where you live.
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 Posted 01/13/2012  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timras14 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
maybe ill make a little compromise, do things my way but just start looking at a lot more coins if they have a nice color/shine. I usually do look over the whole coin front and back when I was looking for WAM and all the other stuff. thanks guys!
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 Posted 01/13/2012  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coppertop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"put em back to work " lol priceless
Perhaps that sounds good , maybe I should just throw all the good zinc to one side, and slowly go through it, and rolling the 50+ grade.Or just fill up my 5gal jugs with them, while I go through it the right way. I just don't want to "miss" one,especially if a brownish 92 was hiding amongst them,but I guess being a low grade wouldnt pay off as much.
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I store my nice ones in tubes. It keeps coin contact marks to a minimum that way.
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I'll def have to try to dial in on the RDV006. Am finding that's just too hard with a loupe , easier with a scope. Sometimes nothing will help me when the reverse has light detail.
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The 006 is a stronger design. So it is seem weaker, that's not it. The 1988 with the RDV 006 are from fresh new dies. Fewer of the struck in 1988 from both mints.
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 Posted 01/13/2012  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coppertop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I grabbed (2) of my boxes of Zinc and sorted clean to dirty. Would this suffice,as most would be newer? Maybe missing the 88s etc Or too overkill? I have close to $400 of Zinc that needs to be sorted/insp and dumped and I appreciate your input

http://uploadpic.org/storage/2011/y...jpbhT5vS.jpg
Left Clean and rdy to scope/ Right Rdy to Dump
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It may just be dirt or glare but one of the cents in the right box looks like it might be a strong clash(obverse).
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