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1985-D DDR - Unknown Variety Or Die Deterioration?

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 Posted 01/17/2012  10:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tarheelblueboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Okay, I may finally have something here. It's not a variety I could find anything about - 1985-D DDR. The coin is somewhat worn out, but you can see a lot of extra especially in AMERICA and what appears to be doubling. There's faint creases in many of the letters - probably was an incredible coin when it was unc. - coin's in bad shape now though. Even the worn out letters look to be doubled. Look closely at the you in "UNITED" and it appears to have a slight spread as well. Memorial looks very strange, seems to be doubled, especially in the top left corner of the memorial. Let me know what you think! I hope I'm right this time! Note that photos were taken with a scanner, and I randomly enhanced some of them for better contrast.





1985-D-DDR---Unknown-Variety-Or-Die-Deterioration?

1985-D-DDR---Unknown-Variety-Or-Die-Deterioration?

1985-D-DDR---Unknown-Variety-Or-Die-Deterioration?

1985-D-DDR---Unknown-Variety-Or-Die-Deterioration?

1985-D-DDR---Unknown-Variety-Or-Die-Deterioration?

1985-D-DDR---Unknown-Variety-Or-Die-Deterioration?

1985-D-DDR---Unknown-Variety-Or-Die-Deterioration?

If you've decided its a doubled die, give me some more information if you know some. I think we are all here for that purpose anyways :-D
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01/18/2012 01:59 am
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 Posted 01/18/2012  06:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me it looks like Die Deterioration, sorry.
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Thanks for your response! Don't let the coin condition throw you off though. The memorial looks to have strong doubling in that top left corner. If I took pictures with a real camera maybe you would see something different. There are shadows like it might be Die Deterioration, but they seem to be outside the doublin. The A and the C appear to have die chipping on top (if die chipping is a word). I figure that would come from the letters being pushed together during hubbing, considering I see creases there too. I'm completely new to this, and I appreciate you help!
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This doubling looks shelf-like to me, which would make it Machine Doubling and not a Doubled Die.

Can you get a picture on an angle so we can see the boss of the devices more clearly?
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01/18/2012 09:48 am
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Looks like Die Deterioration AND Machine Doubling to me...
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If it isn't true doubling jayman, I have to agree with you. We shall settle this as Die Deterioration plus MD! I was actually thinking that might be the case, but hindsight is 20/20 :D. I'll look closer once I actually get my loupe in the mail, doing this with a magnifying glass and a scanner is not the ideal way.
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Looks like a normal coin made with very late die state dies.
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