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I see the 2 cracks but not the scribbles a new VAM die pairing Dave? Don't want to give away too much either, if not scribbles then I know what it is - nice find. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
01/18/2012 12:50 am
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Nope - it's a known VAM.  |
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Well then, like I said I know what it is!  I'll wait for others to post first, that's a really nice looking dollar Dave! "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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The suspense is killing me....lol
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Nice pics and find. I assume that's not a "gouge" on the slab right wing. 3F2
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I know! It's shiny.  That is my final answer. |
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Man I hate not being able to play at work.  I can see the obverse, but not the reverse picture. I'll assume it's a 21-D. I also can't access any VamWorld sites so no "crack guide". I've nipped Dave's obverse picture and highlighted the prominent obverse cracks. Someone else will need to use the crack guide to come up with an attribution (assuming again it's a 21-D). Or if no one steps up I'll do it tonight.  Would sure like to compare with the 21-D VAM 1O (one-Oh). The suspense is killing me. |
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Nice pics and find. I assume that's not a "gouge" on the slab right wing. 3F2 Ding! We have a winner.  The previous Condition Census grade, to the best of my knowledge, is MS63. The popularity of 3F2 among VAMmers is indicated by the fact that, of the 3 subvarieties (3F1, 3F2, 3F3), ANACS only has a separate population listing for 3F2. 2012 looks to be a good year. |
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Nice pick! Is this a hole filler or an upgrade?
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I was right on the money on the VAM Dave, sweet looking coin, great luster too! "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Nice pick! Is this a hole filler or an upgrade? As with most of my purchases, it's most likely going to be a catch-and-release. Like biologists, I catch them, tag them (photographically), and then let them go. |
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How much value does this VAM add to the coin? |
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As with most of my purchases, it's most likely going to be a catch-and-release. Like biologists, I catch them, tag them (photographically), and then let them go.
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Quote:How much value does this VAM add to the coin? I can't say I'm sure. I expect that its' premium lies more with the grade than the VAM; popularity is iffy in the sense that the only real demand for the vast majority of VAMs is in the upper end of the grade scale since there are still relatively few serious VAM collectors. There's only one other "known" MS65 VAM-3F, a 3F3 which hammered for $345 at Heritage in 2004. That's encouraging; it's almost 3 times what I paid for this coin. As we speak, there is a 3F3 in ANACS MS63 on Heritage, and 3 AU VAM-3F2's on ebay plus an "unknown" (not represented in any counts of Condition Census) 3F3 in NGC MS65 (overgraded, IMO). This points out a problem in the current world of VAMming - people are holding back knowledge of coins in the interest of higher profits. I'll be watching the results of these auctions. So, is the coin presented here at the top of the Condition Census by two full grades? Unknown. I will guarantee, though, that it's going to be a part of the public record just as soon as I can get it under my own lens. |
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Posted 01/18/2012 12:56 am
