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1951 Ind Imp Penny?

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I seem to remember reading somewhere about some 1951 pennies (or maybe halfpennies) being struck with dies that still had IND IMP as part of the obverse legend. Am I remembering right, and if I was, were they minted in Melbourne, Perth or London (assuming that it was 1951)?
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 Posted 01/25/2012  02:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i have never heard of these,
The IND IMP was last seen on pennys and half pennys in 1948
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 Posted 01/25/2012  02:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I havent heard of this either.
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 Posted 01/25/2012  03:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought I saw it mentioned in a couple of Australasian Coin and Banknote back issues, one being an article about penny die pairings. I'll have to try and find it again.
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 Posted 01/25/2012  06:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1951 halfpenny comes in 4 varieties. There is the dot and no dot reverses and 2 different denticle counts on the obverse. IIRC the 1 in the date also differs. Probably a site such as Jon Saxton (Triton.VG) would be worth a visit.
I doubt a '51 IND IMP exists but if you find one (genuine, not a magicians fake) it will be worth as much as a 1930 penny or even a 1916 mule halfpenny.
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I tried triton.vg but didn't find anything, which makes me think I may have misread the initial article I saw it in. I checked another list of penny and halfpenny die varieties and couldn't find it there either.
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 Posted 01/26/2012  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thankfully a copy of Fred Lever's Reference Book Australian Pre-decimal and Decimal Variety and Error Coins arrived today.
Turns out it is the 1949 halfpenny I was thinking of. Apparently some of these halfpennies used the IND IMP obverse (obverse 3) instead of obverse 4 and have a rarity of 6 (1 in 100,000) on Fred Lever's scale
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 Posted 01/26/2012  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have heard of that book several times. Where did you get it and how mich?
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I got it from the Prospect Stamps and Coins website: http://www.prospectstampsandcoins.c...10-2012.html (apparently that's the only place they're available from, but I saw a few for sale at the Brisbane Coin Fair on the weekend).
With postage it was about $47.
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Mr T: Interesting. I live about 2 km from Propspect Stamps & Coins, and that is where I got my copy of Fred Lever's book from as well.
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Lucky for you sel. I tried to convince a family member on a trip to Sydney to make a 39km detour to pick me up a copy. No such luck.
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Is it worth the $50 though?
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I don't regret the purchase. It's pretty comprehensive and I've seen a few things I haven't seen anywhere else, but if you're not into pre-decimal varieties it might not be worth it.
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