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New Member
Canada
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I'm new to coin collecting The question I have is :- Does the FBL designation also apply to Proof Franklin coins? Thanks 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7201 Posts |
That's a good question, none of my graded proofs have a FBL designation only cameo.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5854 Posts |
 Since proofs are double struck and usually under higher pressure, most would probably be FBL and adding the FBL would be probably be of no added value.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1211 Posts |
The way I look at it, if a proof isn't fbl, it's probably not worth having it graded. Doubl3eagles answer is all you need to read.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12437 Posts |
 Detail descriptors such as Full Bell Lines are typically not applied to proofs since they are assumed to have full details when struck.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2295 Posts |
 That is an interesting question and I agree that all proofs would be FBL, but why not state it on the slab and not assume it to be so? There are weakly struck proofs and not listing it would be a bad assumption. Disappointed in the TPGs for not stating the obvious.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12437 Posts |
Strength of strike should be accounted for when grading a proof coin so if a proof Franklin has weak bell lines, then it should be downgraded accordingly.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2295 Posts |
Well, is it possible to have a proof Franklin in the same grade with FBL and one without?
And is there a minimum grade for a proof Franklin to be, that has FBL?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12437 Posts |
Quote: is it possible to have a proof Franklin in the same grade with FBL and one without?
Anything is possible with a TPG, still doesn't make them right all the time though  If all else is equal besides strength of strike, then I see no way that the two coins could have the same grade- the better strike should always grade higher. Over the past decade, I have examined ~250 proof Franklins at my local shop's bid board and every single one had full bell lines. I am not saying it is not possible for a proof Franklin to not have FBL but if such a creature exists, I have never seen it. Personally, if one was struck so weakly struck that the bell lines were incomplete, I could not justify any grade over PR64.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've not seen any TPG'ed Franklins with a FBL designation either, most likely due to the above stated reasons with the method of striking. However the big deal is the CAM and Deep CAM designations, now those will cost you a lot of $$$ on certain issues!
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