| Author |
 Replies: 12 / Views: 1,934 |
|
|
Valued Member
United States
234 Posts |
I had posted on this topic previously, but had failed to provide photos. For those with any experience with this subject, here are photos of the coins in question.   |
|
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
531 Posts |
To be honest I can't tell with those pics. Any chance of a pic close enough to see details, on a white background. The light used to illuminate that pic will pick up the brown background color.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
3755 Posts |
Those look to be very nice high end coins. But we really do need pics as Penny Guy said.
|
|
Valued Member
 United States
234 Posts |
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
9792 Posts |
The 1866 & 1867 sure look cleaned still nice coins though, XF-AU grades I see nothing to indicate they are not genuine.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
Could be recolored or cleaned but from those photos, difficult to really tell. Yet nice looking coins. Are they yours? Are you planning on buying them? What grade are they supposed to be? What is it the price range on those and if you buy them and find they have been tampered with, can you return them?
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
8516 Posts |
I've gotten coins that were cleaned and they had a bit of a rainbow hue to them as you turned them. I don't know what they use but it looked like they dipped em clean and then re-toned em. I did see something called Dellers Darkener on-line but I don't know if it's that.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
|
|
Valued Member
United States
81 Posts |
They do look odd. Especially that 1867. Is that lack of discoloration normal around the date?
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
531 Posts |
|
|
Valued Member
United States
234 Posts |
Thanks all for your responses.
I spent roughly $80 to $100 a piece for each and yes I am the proud owner. I didn't buy on e-bay, but on an online auction where the pictures provided were certainly taken with promotional marketing in mind. They were generally represented by grade as AU, but the 67 was represented as MS-63 and is probably AU also.
The color of the two which are more red orange is what provoked the post and questions. They have some luster and a bit of cartwheel, but just looked off a bit. I thought if they were colored, I might try soaking in acetone and seeing if anything would be removed if it wouldn't harm the coin by doing so.
Any thoughts on whether that would be a good or bad idea.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
9792 Posts |
Acetone should not hurt, though I doubt the coin will change much in color, unless it has AT sprayed on or chemically treated. Olive oil will remove "Deller's Darkener" a solution meant to return copper coins that have been cleaned to a more natural look. The coins with the darkener applied tend to have a petroleum smell, it is a substance much like Vaseline. They also have an oily feel to them. Your coins do NOT appear to have the Deller's applied to them, but they do look dipped, which gives off the unnatural orange-red look.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
9792 Posts |
What is your camera? Can you set a custom white balance? I think these look like they are sitting on top of coin rolls in plastic which are white, the yellow tint is coming form the incandecent lighting, giving it a warm look, try shooting them in sunlight outside and I''ll bet they look completely different then.
White balance is the single most important feature to understand when shooting for color accuracy. Many people don't understand it very well or just let the camera do it's auto thing, which works great on people but not copper, silver, gold and other metals usually.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
|
Valued Member
United States
234 Posts |
Thanks westcoin. I was using my wife's Cannon Sureshot (I think that is correct?). It has a macro setting on it so it was able to get a close up. I'm pretty much a novice in photography, but have some decent equipment which I bought when I thought I'd get serious. Very similar concept to my wife's treadmill.
Currently, I'm still just an autofocus guy which proves to be good enough for many pictures, but also not good enough for others. The major problem being, I haven't spent the time learning how to make adjustments to produce better pictures when the AF doesn't get it done. Someday maybe I'll take a photography class and put my Nikon 80 to good use. In the meantime, I just shot the photos with my wife's camera.
Thanks for the tips though, the photos aren't exactly a match to what they look like in hand but are close. I think I may give the acetone dip a try and see what if anything might be on them. I'll post the after pictures when finished.
|
| |
Replies: 12 / Views: 1,934 |
|
Posted 02/20/2012 8:38 pm
