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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
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I did some searching on the net, as I have never knew this coin before I got one. Although it's pretty rare, and I'm wondering if mine is real / fake / replica or what not.  So please help, the weight is: 22.92 Grams, which is 2.08 grams short. Prova stands for Proof I think It does have edge inscriptions! Any info is welcome, as I have no idea  KM# 8.1 - 5 FRANGA ARI25.0000 g., 0.9000 Silver 0.7234 oz. ASW Ruler: Ahmed Bey Zogu - King Zog I Obv: Head right Rev: Man with plow left, value below 1927 Est. 40,000 -- -- -- -- -- Note: Only exist as provas    |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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While I have no idea about its authenticity I'd like to correct one thing. "Prova" stands for "test", so it is rather a pattern, and you can find it listed at the end of the country listing, I believe it's KM# Pr22.
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 Netherlands
626 Posts |
You are absolutly correct svslav! I noticed it before on the net, but never really gave it much attention. I only got it today, and I'm really wondering if it is real.. It shure looks real, but I remain sceptical untill someone would clarify it. But thanks for putting me straight on the prova thing  Always learning here from you guys, which is great |
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Netherlands
626 Posts |
I took some extra pictures from the edge, it appears to be te same as the originals I found on the web. I'm really looking forward to hear any confirmation of authenticity on the coin  Edge: Plain with inscription Lettering: FERT http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces24272.html5 Franga Ari 1927 V (Vienna) - PROVA (KM Pr22) - Obv: Head of King Zog I to right / Rev: Man with plow to left above value - edge: FERT FERT FERT - scarce type coin - XF Price: €200.00   Edited by Kingz
02/22/2012 2:21 pm
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New Member
Poland
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Hello everyone, I have the same coin. Can someone tell me how much is it worth?   |
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
626 Posts |
If it's real, it could fetch maybe around $125/$175 I suppose But then again, I have no idea how to determine if it's real or not. But I think they made a lot of fakes of these ones. I hope we both get an answer how to find out the value and validity! |
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New Member
Poland
43 Posts |
I paid $650 for it, 5 years ago. I hope the value got a bit higher since then... One of that kind in worse condition was sold for over $800 few months ago ...
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
626 Posts |
That is a lot of money, I'm really starting to wonder if mine is real or fake.. Do you know for sure your coin is real, and if so.. are there any differences with my example? It does underweigh a bit, so that worries me. How is your weight?.
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New Member
Finland
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If the coin is so much underweight, it is practically 100% certain that it is a fake.
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New Member
Poland
43 Posts |
Good morning (from Europe), Here you got some better quality photos of my example. I also put the edge. I believe the edge differs between our coins (not only the sign, but please notice the ornaments)... Also the struck of my coin is like a bit "lighter" (eg. legs of cows), and the face of the boy is somehow more detailed (or maybe I'm wrong - correct me somebody if so)...Do you notice that? Ah, and the weight is AROUND 23,2 gramms. How about yours?   |
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New Member
Poland
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OK everyone, I figured out, that my coin is a FAKE. Luckily I will have my money returned for it ... :-)
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Pillar of the Community
Serbia (Srbija)
576 Posts |
Hi everyone, Few years ago, when I started collecting coins, I come across that 5 frang 1927 PROVA coin at flea market. Seller didnt ask much for it (almost silver value) but since I was just beginner back then I didnt buy it. Friend of mine (also coin collector) bought it later that day, and got it authenticated. It was REAL.  This coins are extremely rare, that's why there is 100 fake ones on one real coin. My opinion is this (I may be wrong): both of these coins are fake, they are 2 grams under weight and as I can see edge lettering looks a little fuzzy to me. If they were real these coins would fetch at least 1000 Euros on auction. As fakes they worth only silver value. Albanian coins are usually very rare not just because of low mintage but also because Albanian government didn't allow for their coins to be taken out of country. Greetings from Serbia.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Netherlands
626 Posts |
Ultra, you are very lucky, if you bought that coin 5 years ago.. and you still get your money back!  good dealer you have! But it leads me all to believe mine is fake as well, which doesn't shock me at all since the coin wasn't that expensive  (was in a big lot). The weight was too much underweight also : 22.92 Grams, which is 2.08 grams short! And the edge lettering is a bit too sketchy overall, looks like it done by hand though? Only thing I wonder, if it would be real silver... It is non magnetic, and it sounds like silver (cling) SHould I go to the jewelery, and let them scratch it for a check? Any information on how to spot Silver is welcome. Thanks all  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5362 Posts |
Specific gravity is a good way to test for silver with NO DAMAGE to the coin. There are several threads on this forum that tell you how to do SG. It is EASY.
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Valued Member
United States
172 Posts |
I have this coin also. If it weighs exactly 25.0 grams is that close enough? Does that make it real or are there cast fakes out there that might have "noodly" looking numbers and straight lines. A guy at Stacks looked at it 20 years ago and just blurted out "its a fake" without weighing it or anything. Thoughts?
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Valued Member
United States
414 Posts |
War Nickel - it's usually not a good idea to revive a 7 year old thread. If you have any questions, start a new topic. Also, without pictures, it is very difficult to make any determination on the coin. Weight alone does not provide conclusive evidence.
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