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Guess The Grade -- 1916 Barber Dime

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Just wondering what people think this one grades. It is currently in a PCGS holder.

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 Posted 02/26/2012  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nlp coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is one beauty there. Super crisp details. MS65 at least is my guess. nlp
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Nice sharp details and good rims. I dont see too many marks in the fields. I would guess its considered as nice as it was the day it was made. MS63 is my guess
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MS63 I too think there are just a bit too many marks to go higher, but I sure like the color on this dime.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll go with 63, too.
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MS64
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When I first saw these photos yesterday I was at a loss.
As I do not collect coins in MS and above but rather in high grade circulated examples, I have little experience in MS.
But what I DO have is experience in Barber dimes.
So let me write down what I saw and what I thought.
First, "What an outstanding strike!"
The bow at the 6 o'clock position on the reverse: the right loop is often much worse struck than the left loop. New Orleans are the worst offenders and San Francisco produced the best examples.
On to the obverse: "There IS an eye ball!" I never noticed that before, or a least one which shows so prominently. The "LIBERTY" is about as sharp as is possible.
The detail: the more that I looked the more that I saw which I had never seen before.
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But the question remains: "How do you grade it?"
Well, let's count the "dings:"
1) On the neck, along a line from the lower eye lid to the two flowing ribbons on the left side, there is a contact mark. Made by the edge of one dime hitting this one. If you have to have one of these, it is in an inconspicuous place.
2,3,4,5 --- a few more. I want to post this and I am getting impatient. And those are all on the obverse.
But none are distracting.
MS-63!
Just a guess.
Matthew

Oh WAIT! I turned to my copy of "The Complete Guide to Barber dimes" by David Lawrence and noted the following:

[Re:1916 Philadelphia]

"Strike is often disappointing, luster variable."

Well, that cinched it for me!
No matter what the "numerical" grade, this coin would appeal to any true collector of the series.
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02/27/2012 4:16 pm
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I will go with MS-64. Nice coin!
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MS-63
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I will go with MS-64. Although there are a few imperfections I don't think they are serious enough to knock the grade any lower. Beautiful coin, love the toning.
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The coin was so beautiful I hardly noticed the 2 nicks on the cheek.

MS 64. or strong ms63
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Id say its a 64
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It resides in a PCGS holder, graded MS62. I believe it is one point, possibly two points undergraded by today's standards. Nonetheless, it will remain in that holder and a part of my type-set.

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She's a looker!
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It may have been a 'net graded slider'. I'm seeing that with a lot of 'clean' low MS coins.
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