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Pillar of the Community
United States
759 Posts |
When I see ebay listings I'm watching become designated as Ended with no price information, is one of he potential reasons that a sale was completed off ebay? And keeping with the theme of transactions completed off ebay, is anyone willing to share their experiences, good or bad? I know it's against the rules, but so is going 26mph in a 25mph zone. I also know you lose the Buyer Protection, but if you went through paypal, doesn't that provide some protection? I've just had an unusually large number of items I'm watching go the ended with no price information route lately and while I suppose there are other reasons it happens, I suspect some buyers are willing to take the gamble and go off ebay. Not something I'm inclined to do, but I'm curious as to the pros and cons outside of the fee implications. Thanks. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have ended early a couple of ebay items when there was no bids with one day left in the auction. To me, that indicates that there is no interest for this particular item at this time. I have not ended an auction early to do a an off-eBay transaction. I too, have been cut-off on an auction by "end-it-early" listings, usually with no response from the seller when I ask "what happened?". There are times that the item is listed wrongly, and they cancelled it to correct the issue since it had bids placed on it. GS did that to a 1917 SLQ Type I that was listed as a Type II. I emailed them to let em know that it was labeled wrong. They emailed me back with a "thank you", cancelled the auction and re-listed it, correctly. I can't say about the Paypal protection for off-eBay transactions, but it would seem to make sense that you would be protected. Edited by oih82w8
03/08/2012 11:33 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2797 Posts |
I'm a variety collector (Morgan Vams) who likes to pay non-attributed prices. When I saw a major rarity I used to bookmark it and wait to the end to snipe a bid. My philosophy was to not draw attention to it by bidding and get it for the lowest possible price. After a few of these listings mysteriously ended without a selling price listed, I surmised that the seller received "an offer they couldn't refuse" and sold it off-ebay. Now I place a nominal bid when I first see it to make the seller think twice of ending it early. Then, I insert my final bid with a couple of seconds left. There are still some disappearing listings with a bid cancellation notice from the seller, but it doesn't happen often.
I have received offers for some of my listings that would have exceeded the final price (not counting the fees). Both the seller and buyer forfeit any protections by doing this. With so many scammers out there, I will not take the chance.
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United States
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1. I know some ebay sellers who also list the same coins on their business website. I've bought coins from their website that were listed less than the BIN or current-bid. Plus some have the coin for sale on other sites or in their b&m store. So IMO there are legit reasons for some coins to be pulled. 2. All that being said I don't think it "kosher" to list a coin and pull it because you have had no bids and don't want it sniped at the minimum price! That is CHEATING! If you didn't "REALLY" want to sell it at the min you listed then it is plainly dirty unethical practice to pull it later. Someone buying it already is one thing, but "losing" your gamble that it'll be bid up to past retail is not being a responsible seller. They should ban anyone that EVER DOES THAT INTENTIONALLY. |
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Australia
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I sometimes see this: "Advertised elsewhere may end at any time!", which might be followed up with - "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available." so, the seller accepted an offer. I use ebay to source parts for my carp parts too big for postage. I travel a lot. So, I "watch" items that interest me. If there are no bids, I message the vendor "I'll be in your area in April or May, ...". They give me a 'phone number, and when I get there, I get an address. Then I inspect, and perhaps pay and pick-up all at once. I s'pose that bit's "off-ebay". |
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I did buy one coin in the past with an off ebay transaction from a seller. It was a bit of a risk and certainly not something I will do regularly but it ended up well. We exchanged several emails and worked it out so that I would pay half up front and half when I got the coin in hand. For individual sellers I'm sure this happens more than ebay would like to admit. If it is a store listing it or something of that nature I would suspect the above posts are correct that they do have the coin listed several places and most likely the listing is cheaper elsewhere without the ebay fees. |
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Canada
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I have a couple of people that I deal with off ebay that were originally buyers from my ebay store and I usually give them a better price since I am not paying fees. I have also bought off ebay a few times both ways were good deals for me. I pull coins once in a while but never if they are in auction format. Paypal also does have a protection plan I think. |
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Posted 03/09/2012 10:32 am
