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Chinese "Ink Chop" Chopmarks On 8 Reales, Etc.

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 Posted 03/20/2012  7:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This query by user "SilverBug" got buried in another post... thought it would make it a good thread of its own as it's kind of a specialized area of collecting:
AKA "ink chops", "ink chopmarks", Chinese merchant ink stamps...


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"SilverBug" posted:
My friend got a mexican silver coin the other day, he was curious what's the black and orange stamp on the coin, is it a copy? or a fake? any feedback appreciated...

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"swamperbob":
The coin appears to be real. The chops are referred to as Ink Chops - applied instead of the more common and destructive chops which cut into the coin.

thanks swamperbob!

I'm able to get a lot more information with the keyword "chop" instead of "stamp". it turned out these mexican coins were circulated in China as currency. that maybe also explained why "Why did they choose to counterfeit a common Mexican silver coin".

http://www.charm.ru/coins/misc/chopmarks.shtml

ALSO SEE:
http://www.chopmarks.com/tinta/tinta.htm

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 Posted 03/20/2012  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add patrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's an interesting chop - I haven't seen too many of the ink ones before. There's more information available at the chop mark collector's club site, including a series of newsletters that catalog the various chops that have been used over the years. Here's a link: http://www.chopmarks.org/joomla/
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 Posted 03/21/2012  04:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MathieuMa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent idea realeswatcher, this deserves its own topic.
I don't collect those (actually, I may get a nice chopped coin to have it though - I have to decide on a nice example) - but nevertheless it's very interesting to know :)

I was wondering, from what I understood those chop were - among other reasons - used to test the coin for proper silver (and detect plated coins, like shefield ones)
And guarantee it was correct.
I deduce that those ink chops were just the guarantee from the seller that the coin was fine ?
What I find strange is that on this coin, there is no regular mark (for silver test). As well as on the link provided above.
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Hi realeswatcher -

Here is my 8 Mexican reales with ink chops -

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Please note that the flip (below) indicates that there in a "swastica" ink chop, and a reverse die clash (please also see inset pictures)

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