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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Edited by Lenikas
03/28/2012 08:32 am
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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This coin looks close to uncirculated, but not quite.
Perhaps there is a tiny amount of wear on the dear Lady's boobs, but perhaps they are indeed pristine.
There are lots of tiny nicks over all of the coin, but perhaps you would expect that with such a large pure copper coin that is 215 years old. The coin must have suffered these very minor attacks over a century ago.
The date numerals look a bit wonky, but that doesn't surprise me very much, because there were many minor variations with this issue.
Almost uncirculated, and a coin that would sit nicely in any collection.
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Valued Member
 United Kingdom
164 Posts |
Some better pictures, how to sort variety of this coin? how many leaves are here? p.s. camera's lens was dirty, shame :)    |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2892 Posts |
stunning coin ... nice addition.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
 Very nice coin! Many of these have big dents on the rims due to weight and softness of the copper. |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
Actually, the close ups show that indeed there are very few nicks and scratches.
Uncirculated.
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Moderator
 United States
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Very nice coin. IMO the coin has been circulated and shows some wear. I would grade it at EF-40.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
If I were to offer an imaginative guess, I would say this coin saw little actual circulation.  Judging by the short scratches and small, uniform edge dings--the coin may be "shop-worn". From what I've read, the "carthwheel" 1d and 2d were more popular for shop balance weights than money. This coin appears handled--but carefully as one might expect as a balance weight. |
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
164 Posts |
I think you are right, good information :) I have checked all of the cartwheel twopences on ebay, and just few had edge like this example. I really like it :) |
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New Member
Canada
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very nice looking coin. Wish I had something like that in my collection
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4897 Posts |
Very nice! That is one I do not have...AU for sure....  ....a triple drooler for me! |
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New Member
United Kingdom
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I have a two pence cartwheel penny and they where made for the actual weight
of copper and indeed to be used as weights. They wasn't popular as coins
as they ruined pocket linings, they do
tend to have knocks along the edges
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
2830 Posts |
I agree that this is a beautiful coin.
Regarding grade: copper is soft, and a coin can still grade as "Unc" if it has a few "bagmarks".
Of course, bagmarks may prevent it being "choice" or "gem".
The question becomes, whether there is any wear from circulation apparent.
Sel has asked a question in that regard, but I'm not sure that the answer is easy to see in those pics.
quote: "Perhaps there is a tiny amount of wear on the dear Lady's boobs, but perhaps they are indeed pristine."
- my reading is that the Lady was the Duchess of Richmond, and that she was ... well-circulated.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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While researching this coin more I came upon this thread about the same coin. I have a few worn ones but this got me intruiged, it has something what appears like chocolate colored gloss all over it: http://www.snapagogo.com/photo.php?id=12768It came with an envelope which is marked with GF, presumably Good Fine? and 'EKs' (that I don't know what it is). Reading they were used as weights seems kinda cool. A while ago I read somewhere else that they sometimes took one of them and split it in half to make 2 thinner ones out of, and sometimes even 3? Although it might have been one of the other thivk pennies they did that with, not sure anymore. |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
2830 Posts |
EK = "edge knock" - the dings on the rim.
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United Kingdom
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Posted 03/28/2012 08:52 am
