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Your coin is very nice. I have a similar coin (not near as nice of condition as yours), but the reference for mine is RIC 312 with the obverse legend being somewhat different. Mine reads NERO CAESAR AVG GERM IMP. I paid $61 for mine, but I failed to reflect the date I purchased it. I think it was about two years ago.

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 Posted 04/16/2012  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin is much nicer than mine.

Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus. He was the adopted son of the emperor Claudius and given the name of Nero Claudius Drusus Germananicus. Nero was born on Dec 15th 37 AD, he mother was Agrippina Jr and his father was Domitius Ahenobarbus. He was was a despicable man known for his dishonesty and hot temper. He ran over a small boy with his chariot for standing in the road. The apple didn't fall far from the tree with Nero. Nero was believed to be involved with the death of Claudius, his brother Britannicus. He even had his mother put to death when he felt the she was interring with his ambitions. In a fit of rage he kicked his pregnant wife Poppaea to death. Than there was the matter of the burning of Rome than he was believed to has started.

Like Caligula before him, he started as a good ruler, but it didn't take long for that to chance. In 65 AD the senate had enough of Nero and a plot to assassinate him was hatched it was known as the Pisoian Conspiracy. The plot was found out and Nero began treason trials and executions of many of the senators.

In 67 AD more organized resistance against his rule formed along with revolts in Gaul, Spain and Portugal. He found that he was not able to contain this. He than fled to Ostia and committed suicide in 68 AD.
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Thanks for your posts, gang ...


Yah, Nero sounds like he wasn't the nicest of the emperors (understatement of the year!!)

I searched around a chose a few quotes, describing Nero:


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According to Suetonius, Nero "showed neither discrimination nor moderation in putting to death whomsoever he pleased" during this period.



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Nero tried to kill his mother through a planned shipwreck, which took the life of her friend, Acerronia Polla, but when Agrippina (Nero's mother) survived, he had her executed and framed it as a suicide.



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Nero also was reported to have kicked Poppaea to death in 65 before she could have his second child.



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He was known for having captured Christians burned in his garden at night for a source of light ... covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired.


... *yikes*

=> apparently the only good thing about Nero is my coin!!
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He was a piece of work. He was though to be the Anti-Christ of John the Divine Revelations, his name added up to the numbers 666.
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Nero is such a good guy when it comes to coins. Steve's Victory is very nice. It is hard to find them with all of the SPQR on the shield! My favorite Nero bronzes, though, are the ones with the temple of Janus coins honoring peace all across the empire. This peace lasted almost no time because of the revolt in Judaea and probably upset Nero more than a little bit leading to his sending Vespasian to trash the place.
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gorgeous coins, dougsmit ... thanks for sharing those beauties!!

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Thanks. The overlap photo is unusual for me but made to show off the legend difference. The nicer coin has the less desirable legend so I have to keep both of them.
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I want another Nero after looking at all your bronzes!
Something that I can add about Nero that I didn't see in this part of the thread was his fixation on becoming an actor, dancer , poet and singer, along with being a charioteer. He traveled to Greece to put on shows for the Greeks who apparently loved him. But because he was so caught up in his love of the Theatre he became oblivious to the storm of rebellion that was sweeping toward him. When Galba claimed the throne, the senate, in collusion with Nymphidius, declared Nero a public enemy and condemned him to be flogged to death with rods according to ancient tradition. Nero seeing that he was finished, fled to the suburbs of Rome to the house of one of his freedmen and uttered the historic words, qualis artifex pereo - 'what a loss I shall be to the arts' or 'how the National Theatre will miss me!'
As a troop of cavalry was heard down the road, he managed, with the help of his secretary, to stab himself in the the throat, and died.
Nero was a piece of work.
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oxos => that is very interesting ... I had heard the rumour tht he played the voilin/fiddle as Rome was burning ...

Man, it sure sounds like he was a pompous arse, eh? ... but I'm sure that if you said that his acting and/or his fiddle playing sucked, he'd have you killed!!

"Oh my, Nero ... that was fantastic"

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DAY #17 => COIN #14

Claudius AE As

Date: 50-54 AD
Diameter: 27.3 mm.
Weight: 10.2 gr.
Obverse: TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG PM TR P IMP PP - Bare head of Claudius.
Reverse: CONSTANTIAE AVGVSTI - Constantia holding sceptre.
References: RIC 111

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 Posted 04/17/2012  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a couple of these but not in this nice of a condition. Beautiful coin.
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Nero's phiddle playing was an early form of urban renewal. He wanted to have a huge new construction area, and unfortunately, the best location was where the muckity-mucks lived. Property ain't worth much if it's ashes.
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 Posted 04/17/2012  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbyhelmet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin Steve.

I fear my posts in this thread will reduce now as I know little about the early Emperors, I will be though.

Its uncertain if Nero was evil or history has just painted him that way, unfortunately we may never know for sure as the available texts are not very reliable.

Some of the things he may or may not have done, depending on which history you believe many of these actions can appear on both lists:

Cons:
Killed his mother Agrippina the Younger.
Killed his Step-brother Britannicus (probable).
Burned Rome (possible).
Burned Christians in his garden at night for a source of light
Killed his first wife Octavia.
Killed his second wife Poppaea (possible).
Almost bankrupted the Empire rebuilding Rome.
Bribed / beat the judges of the Olympic Games of 67AD to win a number of events.

Pros:
Killed his mother - she was herself pretty evil!
Didn't kill his mistress Claudia Acte
Championed the Arts and Athletics.
Survived a difficult childhood while his uncle, Caligula (an almost unparalleled lunatic and insane tyrant) was in power.
Gradually removed the advisors who sought to control him.
Competed in the Olympic Games of 67AD.
Put-down the British Revolt of 60--61, The Pisonian Conspiracy of 65, and The First Jewish War of 66--70.
Popular with the working classes and in the East.
Rebuilt Rome.
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Wow => apparently Nero was such a knob, that we're still talking about him on "Claudius Day"!!





... thanks for all of your responses!!
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apparently Nero was such a knob, that we're still talking about him on "Claudius Day"!!


oops - guess thats what happens when I try to multi-task and speed read.

Sadly I have nothing to add about Claudius - but I'm pretty sure he wasn't a knob.
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