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A Simple Small 1985 Canadian Cent... But, Check It Out..

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 Posted 04/17/2012  9:16 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coingirl to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
here we have a nearly impossible contraction
How did it come about...
all the info is posted...
any constructive comments and suggestions are appreciated.

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 Posted 04/17/2012  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imohtep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
theory 1: that penny took a nice acid bath if you ask me. definately PMD. Someone probably soaked it a little too long when they were trying to clean it....if you look at your first picture, you can see that the acid completely ate away the queen from the coin to the point were the maple leaf was showing trough.

theory 2: This is what could be classified as a struck through die cap or something along those lines...SEE MY POST CALLED "A LONELY QUEEN"
https://goccf.com/t/116576
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 Posted 04/18/2012  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wouldn't an 'acid bath' remove both sides of the coin.
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 Posted 04/18/2012  07:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see 1985 on the good side, but the other side looks like a mirror image of 1983?
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 Posted 04/18/2012  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add folcan99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All I can say is, thank god it aint a pointed 5 lol, that would be a shame.
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 Posted 04/18/2012  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zonad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If this is a split planchet it split before being rimmed. If it split anytime after I think the rim would be flat on one side. So, let's say it split before, then was rimmed and then was struck by a reverse die and a die cap?

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 Posted 04/18/2012  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
may be a retained broken die (rev.) tossed in with a split planchet. OR it could be PMD. I would need to see it in hand. The absence of some bleed through details is alarming (for a split planchet)
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Wouldn't an 'acid bath' remove both sides of the coin


not if you just puddled it up on the one side
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 Posted 04/18/2012  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coingirl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, lets get realistic and assume that either one of you is right, or both.
I am meeting with my friend later today who owns this concussion.
what do you guys, zonad and nickelsguy, think I should offer him for it.
Perhaps Pm me on this..
thanks
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I would pass unless I was sure. Need it in hand to be sure. Sorry, not much help.
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I can't say but I would pay $20 for the learning possibilities. Or send it to nickelsguy for an in hand opinion.
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will discuss it with the owner later today
and who knows, it might take a ride to Ontario.
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Have fun.
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It looks to me like a uniface strike on a thin planchet. This could happen if the thin planchet rode into the striking chamber on top of another planchet.

Why the planchet is thin is hard to say for sure - it could have been rolled thin or split in the rimming machine.
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 Posted 04/19/2012  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought of that as well Joe, but then I would have expected rim damage or distortion on the "mirror side".
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...it could have been rolled thin


Joe, that is probably unlikely, because it would mean an entire sheet or strip being rolled thin... and we would see more than a single example of this error. I am somewhat scratching my head like Mike is, because if it was on top of another planchet, it would be out of the collar and larger in diameter, and my eyes are seeing what Randy is seeing - looks like a 1983 brockage... definitely a coin needed in hand to make a decision... even then, it might not be conclusive... Thanks for sharing H.
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