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Very interesting indeed :)
The C/M is from Potosi, after the famous Potosi scandal.
Silver was not pure as it should have nee, (debased silver), and coins from the period of this scandal were counterstamped to lower their value - but still leave them in circulation.
They were subsequently melted, so those are quite scarce (either with, or without the counterstamp)
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Those are neat cobs. Did you find them with a detector?
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Yes, a metal detector looking in the cracks in the coral close to the beach. Since then the drug smugglers dropped a twin beach on the spot so all you find now is airplane parts. I hear that the island has been turned over to a cruise ship company now.
Mike
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Interesting... had never heard of that wreck and how it fits into the Capitana/Maravillas/"Jupiter Wreck" story. Do "they" think that this ship had a big haul from the Maravillas... and/or, has any organized salvage ever taken place?
While the coins are what they are condition-wise, with a nice written explanation from you, the finder, they might bring a nice price from those collectors who actively seek out pieces from scarcer, more obscure pedigrees... especially given the connection to those other well-known wrecks.
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Realeswatcher.
My information comes from Sedwick as he mentions it in his data on the Maravilla. Also read that Art McKee recovered three silver ingots from the wreck years ago, each of about 70 lbs.
I also read that someone else found another ingot diving off the wreck area many years ago. I don't remember the name of the person but believe it was an Abaconian. Disney now owns the island and it is off limits. There are many sharks off the southern end of the island. We were chased ashore once by a large reef shark in two feet of water!!
Mike
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Those are awesome and very interesting!  |
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The first one's a coin!?!?!?!?! lol, I would have never noticed.
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XRF analysis from my research due to severe copper and zinc leaching in these cases make sea salvage pieces almost pure in silver with surficial readings normally at 98-99%. Yes - but remember the silver surface enrichment effect of silver being a noble metal and going to the surface and copper remaining atthe core - but I would expect the cores to be near 90% silver instead of the normal 75% silver. Even analyzing at different layers almost all readings show this pegged 98-99% reading on salvaged 8R's we see that sell on E-Bay. These clumps may be different. Never analyzed one ...
John Lorenzo
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i do some diving off sandy point, bahamas, any chance on getting the location of shipwreck or downed aircraft.
claude
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Mathieu, just to follow up on this point...
"They were subsequently melted, so those are quite scarce (either with, or without the counterstamp)"
Pieces from this period that exist WITHOUT the counterstamp are actually a lot rarer, as by default, most of these WERE supposed to have been stamped. Of course, the stamped pieces were intended to be melted ultimately, but the wreck of the Capitana in 1654 (and the subsequent ill-fated salvage attempts after that) ensured that we have a decent amount of these stamped pieces extant.
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Claude. The island has been taken over by Disney and is now a resort. If you pull up the map on Google Earth look at the south end of the island where it comes to a point. They have dredged a deep channel where their ship docks. This is about where the airplane was wrecked. The coins were found along the shore line from that point south to the end of the island.
Mike
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Mike
Thanks for the location, my boat has sonar and I have had good readings in an area between sandy point and gorda.
I will be looking forward to scaning the shore line of gorda
Claude
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