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leed New Member Australia 31 Posts	Posted 05/05/2012 01:44 am hi I was just wondering what people thought these coins are worth also I cant seem to find the dot that is meant to be be under the scroll ps I'm only new to collecting so please be kind :) sorry they not the best pics I still learning Edited by leed 05/05/2012 11:02 pm Report this Post to the Staff

enworb Pillar of the Community Australia 4411 Posts	Posted 05/05/2012 03:02 am It is hard to see the dots when the coins are this worn. I would grade all of them around the G-VG range. I would imagine that if you put them one ebay you would get around $2 for each of them. Try and get a loupe and have a very close look above and below the scrolls for a small dot. Its hard to see from the pictures but the variation of the dots (if there is any) will change the values a little. Report this Post to the Staff
leed New Member Australia 31 Posts	Posted 05/05/2012 03:25 am thanks I will try to get a better look Report this Post to the Staff
Squire Wilson Pillar of the Community Australia 653 Posts	Posted 05/05/2012 03:26 am leed Some time ago I tried to find all of the "dot" variations to the 1919 and 1920 Australian pennies. Pretty tricky, especially as these pennies can be quite worn and grubby so it is easy to "imagine" the dot . I am probably not making the job easier for myself, as I am rather conservative and do not clean my coins. I may return to finish this "dot variation collecting" someday though. Squire Report this Post to the Staff
shaden Valued Member Australia 59 Posts	Posted 05/05/2012 05:12 am dot above bottom scroll, Indian obverse I think it would only be a good in grade. Report this Post to the Staff
Basil Pillar of the Community Australia 1040 Posts	Posted 05/05/2012 06:30 am Quote: I would imagine that if you put them one ebay you would get around $2 for each of them. Yeah,they tick over at a $1 or 2 but nowhere near catalogue except for the double dot & dot over top scroll which can get near the $50 for a nice coin & huge money for the top grades. Report this Post to the Staff
nealeffendi Pillar of the Community Australia 852 Posts	Posted 07/20/2013 09:33 am I know this is an old post but I have a weakness for 1920. Coin 1 has a bulge at VDG. That obverse was paired with both a dot over and a no dot reverse, in this case it is the dot over where the dot is very worn. coin 2 is probably a dot under (but the dot isn't visible), it is most unlikely to be a no dot as it has none of the faults of the known no dot coins. Coin 3 is a dot under as it has CBL (curved based lettering on the reverse) Coin 4 is too badly degraded to tell from the photos. Highest value is $5 for coin 1, $3 for coin 2 and coins 3 and 4 are worth under a dollar. Basil, a dot over top scroll coin is worth over $100 for just an average grade coin. At F grade you will be looking at $2-300 and at VF over a grand. The double dots are worth perhaps a quarter of that. Squire, if you get back to sorting out the dots I hope you have patience, after 10 years and 5,000 hours I still have not sorted the dots fully out. If you attempt it then you are best to first sort them out according to CBL and FBL (all 1920 CBLs are dot under) and then identify them by the die cracks, defects and die clashes as at least 70% of dots are not visible on coins. For 1919 the differing slopes of the numbers also helps. Report this Post to the Staff
Basil Pillar of the Community Australia 1040 Posts	Posted 07/22/2013 8:15 pm Quote: Basil, a dot over top scroll coin is worth over $100 for just an average grade coin. At F grade you will be looking at $2-300 and at VF over a grand. The double dots are worth perhaps a quarter of that. Yeah,my post is badly worded,more directed at the "double dot".I have purchase a genuine but poor coin with the dot above the top scroll for $40 but that was a lucky get. A word of warning to all eBayers,most of the "top dot" coins for sale are in fact double dot varieties so caution is required.http://www.thesandpit.net/index.php...920dat_penny Edited by Basil 07/22/2013 8:17 pm Report this Post to the Staff
nealeffendi Pillar of the Community Australia 852 Posts	Posted 07/23/2013 12:41 am Hi, Basil I agree that most of the so called dot over tops on ebay are double dots. I do have a few dozen of the genuine article plus hundreds of the double dots (I'm an addict) and around 85% of the double dots have die clashes (the spur between the NN) and none of the dot over top have this defect. So when I see that fault then I know that it isn't a dot over top (and bid accordingly). I picked up a dot over top last month on ebay for under $10, it was being sold as a double dot. Report this Post to the Staff
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