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 Posted 05/21/2012  3:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ancientcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Guys I have looked everywhere for a match to this coin but I can't find any!

It is a provincial for sure and the seller gave it an ID of Elagabalus from Cilicia, Anazarbus. When I checked, I found no such match. Can anyone help me out?

Link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/25104871715....m1497.l2649

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 Posted 05/21/2012  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have a very good resource for coins from Tarsus, Cilicia, but this coin is definitely the same style as those I've seen from here. I'll keep looking and perhaps someone with better resources will help out in the meantime.
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I am waiting for the day when someone writes a definitive catalog in english on Roman Provincial coins. There is just not enough info on all the coins minted in the provinces to find them all. Moushmov is the closest but it doesn't cover everything.
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I do not know this coin but the general rule of coins you can't find under Elagabalus is to look under Caracalla. I don't see enough detail to make it an easy ID so your chances will rest on finding a similar coin. I don't read enough of the reverse to bet on the city but I do see the legend starts with METROPOL so it is a city that used this. I'm not saying that the given ID is wrong but only that the reason you are having trouble finding it might just be because it is not something you see every day. You could always ask the seller if he has any hints on how you can confirm the ID. If he did it himself, he might be helpful.
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JW, you mentioned the city of Tarsus. I was looking under Anazarbus at first but when I looked at Tarsus I found this.

Link: http://wildwinds.com/coins/ric/elag...GFr_1560.jpg

Tarsos, Cilicia.
AVT KA M AVP ANTWNEINOC, laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind
TARCOU EU MHTROPOLE, GB in ex., DHMI in wreath of Demiourgos.

It looks right to me as far as I can tell. The obverse legend is very tough to make out on my coin, but everything on the reverse matches. Can I get a consensus from the forums? Thanks for looking!

EDIT: dougsmit, good eye! Your interpretation of the reverse legend matches the Wild Winds entry I found.
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BTW, I am not saying the coin is not Elagabalus. I just don't recognize it. The catalog echizento wants is in process (RPC = Roman Provincial Coins) and is coming out one volume at a time and not in order. The first volumes are huge and expensive but cover the relatively small number of issues from the first century.
http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/project/
I don't even see a light at the end of this tunnel. The Severan part will be several volumes. I suspect the complete set, when finished (after I am long gone at the current rate) will sell for $5-10k and make RIC look like a pamphlet.
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 Posted 05/21/2012  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You guys are good. When it comes to bad coins, it takes an eye I don't have.
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 Posted 05/21/2012  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That looks right to me. Glad to have been of some little help (and I mean little). I have grown to appreciate these provincial coins, but, like I said, I have so few sources I can rely on. Personally, I like your coin and find it intriguing that it comes from Tarsus.
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Aye Tarsos is an amazing place hand has exceedingly rich history. The city is where Marc Antony and Cleopatra first met, and it is the birthplace of Paul the Apostle. This will be my first coin from this city, and I am more than pleased with it!
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