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Just a quick reminder that a few changes will take effect on May 31 that are designed to improve buyer confidence and sales in the Coins category. We also want to notify you that since we announced these changes in April, two more companies have met our standards for grading coins-giving you more companies to choose from.
Update your Coins listings now to comply with the new policy.
Starting on May 31, only listings for coins that have been graded by one of the following companies may include a numeric grade in their listing title or item description:
• Numismatic Guaranty Corporation (NGC)
• Professional Coin Grading Service (PCGS)
• American Numismatic Association Certification Services (ANACS)
• Independent Coin Graders (ICG)
Coins that haven't been graded by one of these companies will be considered raw.
Also, whenever you list or relist a single coin within the Coins:US category with a Buy It Now, reserve or start price of $2,500 or more, you are required to have your item graded by one of these companies. Good 'Til Cancelled listings will have to comply with the new policy starting on June 30. Bullion, collections, mixed lots, and sets of coins are excluded from this requirement.
Listings that don't comply by these dates will be ineligible for relist or renewal and will be removed.
Including a numeric grade from companies who have met ebay's stringent standards will help assure buyers that your listings accurately represent the high quality of your coins. Take action now to ensure your listings remain available on the ebay marketplace.
Have a great day and thank you for selling on ebay!

ebay Selling Team


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two more companies have met our standards for grading coins


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Including a numeric grade from companies who have met ebay's stringent standards


Nice to see ebay setting the standard for grading



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 Posted 05/22/2012  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add donkrx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could see the $2500 being lower, but the rest is good.
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 Posted 05/22/2012  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Who moved, the TPGs or ebay?

Just checked ANACS's web site - they now have a cert lookup, which is definitely new, and hey, so does ICG. I guess ebay's wankishness has had a positive outcome.
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05/22/2012 1:32 pm
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ANACS website still needed a lot of improvement, but I agree that ebay tactic did some good way to push it along.

I am not sure about the $2500 Reserved/BIN/start price for raw coin had to be certified by one of the 3rd TPG, but then again, I wouldn't want to buy a raw coin with that price without first inspecting it.
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Nice to see ebay setting the standard for grading

They didn't, they set standards for grading companies.
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 Posted 05/22/2012  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 2500 does seem really high for ungraded coins. Then again its kind of your own fault if you spend that kind of money on something youve never seen and have no assurance to it.

Hopefully now the SGS (i think theyre the ones who basically only grade 70) coins will disappear from the site
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 Posted 05/22/2012  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That did not take long to get blocked at work, I mean at location "B";

ACCESS DENIED

ANACS Certification Search
http://anacs.inetlogic.com/

SEGS coins will not be able to identified with a numerical grade in the title, you can spout off all you want in the description, SEGS is not going anywhere.
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I don't sell/buy on ebay at the moment, but this seems like a good thing for coins? Am I missing a downfall to this?

If anything I was going to try my luck selling some nice looking copper cents as single coins and bulk sales, and I just have to avoiding giving it a grade (which I wasn't planning on doing anyways).
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SEGS coins will not be able to identified with a numerical grade in the title, you can spout off all you want in the description, SEGS is not going anywhere.


That isn't actually correct.

You're no longer allowed to mention an unapproved grading company, even in the description of your listing.

You can't include a picture of the slab, either.

And they're enforcing the new rules pretty strongly.
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Must have misread that...I don't mess with anything less the the TOP III TPR'ers anyway.
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Am I missing a downfall to this?


I predict a proliferation of fake PCGS, NGC, ANACS, and ICG slabs with cloned certification numbers
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well, its nice to see ICG and ANACS back
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I'm glad I no longer do ebay.
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I didn't know ANACS had ever been taken away from approved TPG's. When I first read this I was thinking "two all I see is one added and that is ICG" I thought NGC,PCGS and ANACS was always approved
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I didn't know ANACS had ever been taken away from approved TPG's. When I first read this I was thinking "two all I see is one added and that is ICG" I thought NGC,PCGS and ANACS was always approved


Technically none of them were really taken away since they got their databases going before the changes go into effect
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Hmmm. I have one concern regarding both the 4 certification services and the $2,500.00 limit on selling raw coins.

Being a collector of ancient coins, I subscribe to the practice on not having my coins graded. I am ok with grading modern issues, but as for Ancient coins, I shun the practice. I am not alone in this belief. Most Ancient coin collectors also shun TPGs.

Out of all 50+ Ancient Coins I own, I only have 2 of them graded. They are graded and certified by Sear. When you have an Ancient coin graded by Sear, your coin isn't encapsulated, it is sent back to you with a laminated certificate with a photo of your coin and a signature from David Sear with information about the coin and a grade.

Obviously Sear isn't considered a TPG with standards by ebay. In the Ancient coin industry, Sear certification is highly respected as one if not the best. Unlike TPGs, Sear is more knowledgeable and focuses on Ancient coins only. I recently sold two coins that were also certified by David Sear. With the new rules in effect, both would be considered raw ungraded coins.

The other problem I have is with the selling limit. If you are a collector of Roman Aureus, you may have one or more coins in your collection that sell for way more than $2500.00. If I was to sell an Aureus, ebay would only want me to have it certified by a TPG which is shunned by the Ancient Coin collecting community. TPG such as NGC have on more than one occasion mis attributed ancient coins.

Personally, I prefer not to sell my ancients on ebay, but others rely on it. I wonder how this is going to affect Ancient Coin collectors out there.
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05/22/2012 10:16 pm
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