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Quick Question On A 1963-D Lincoln Cent

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Any known over date I.E.: 63/62 (3/2) on this one.
I looked at a few coins today (will be getting back later on the others)
and I did take a quick look at the above mentioned and most likely it is one of the DDO's. Just wondering. Will get the coin in hand later and will take some pics. to determine which DDO it is if not an overdate. The current owner bought it from a dealer who stated that it was a 63/62 overdate. ?
Thanks.

Others to come: 1959-D lincoln with raised reeding on part of the obverse edge. On top. No reeding on the outer edge of coin. Outer edge
concave in areas. Raised concentric line around Rev. border.

1946 lincoln struck through (metal object)

1971-S proof DDO/peg leg

1984-P roo dime. Very interesting. Might just be a garage job though.

I know, I know Will get to it

And maybe a biggie. Need to get the guy to let me have it in hand for a while. Looked at it though anyway. Buffalo nickel on a copper one cent planchet. 3.1 grams. Date may be hard to dechipher though. Strike
is oriented correctly and on both Obv. and Rev.
So much for the quick question huh ?

Also picked up a knock off trade and Morgan dollar.
These are real bad. As well as a one pound copper Lincoln Cent
paper weight. Looks cool though.





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yeah you know better !! lol
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The first thing to note is that overdates are impossible on Lincoln cents. The dates are not punched to begin with.

It is, however, possible for a Lincoln Cent die to have been hubbed with two different dated hubs. Very highly unlikely to have happened, but possible.
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Thank's Charles. Wrong term on overdate I guess.
I see it used a lot when describing i.e.: nickels, morgans etc.
What then exactly is the proper definition of an overdate ?
I see you have that category on your site.
Long shot on the hubbing but when I get the coin in hand I will check
it over as I think it is one of the DDO's.
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Over date: When a die is hand punched with one date, then re-punched with a different date.

Dates that are hubbed into the dies one date then another date are actually class 3 doubled dies. Class 3 is defined as a doubled die that occurs NOT because of misalignment or misrotation, but because the actual design on the hubs pressing into the dies are different.

Essentially a 1960 large/small date doubled die is exactly the same class of doubling as a 1942/1941 dime. Two different designs hubbed into the same die.

Hand punching dates ended in all the series that close out the 19th century. ALL coin series that started within the 20th century had dates on the hubs and were pressed by machine into the individual dies. ANY "over date" in the 20th century is, by definition, a doubled die, NOT an over date.

This includes the 1914/3 nickels, 1918/7 quarters and nickels, 1942/1 dimes, and the 1943/2 nickels.

Also take note of this curiosity: all of the coins listed in my last sentence happen to be related in one way. The United States was at war in (or very close to) all those years. This "could" have something to do with the cause of these unusual doubled dies.
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Excellent. Perfect explanation and will be duly noted then
etched forever in the old noggin. :)
Thank you a ton. It will be 50 yrs. now since I started with
coins. Checked out a few other coin forums over the years then
lurked around here for a while before joining I think 4 yrs. ago. Learned more in 4 yrs. on here than in the past 40.
Yourself and a few others have been a great asset not only on here but out in the coin community. Priceless knowledge.
Just wanted to say I appreciate your help along with others.



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