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 Posted 02/18/2007  01:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wrk4lvg to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I can't even type this out.

Was over having a BBQ and bonfire w/ a long time friend. His soon to be mother in law is over until Sunday.

I come into the house to see A LOT, I mean A LOT of shiny coins. OLD OLD coins. Morgans, Barbers, etc....

SHINY!

She had picked them up from her safety deposit box down in S. Florida due to having moved to Georgia.

Well, while I was outside, she had soaked 98% of the coins into ammonia.

Why you ask?

Because "they were blue"....naturally toned coins now shiny silver.



I didn't even have the heart to tell her she ruined every coin she had collected.

I couldn't even look at them (this is coming from somebody who doesn't like toned coins)

However, I now know why those passionate about not cleaning coins get so angry. I am apparently one of them.

If there is ANY positive to add to this; there are a lot more coins to be picked up and I asked that she do noting to them but give them to me.

Not going to happen.

***Edited by Forum Dad to move to main coin forum***
Rest in Peace
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 Posted 02/18/2007  09:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without getting into a long drawn-out vitriolic and vindictive diatribe about mothers-in-law (I've had two; whether they're future, past, present, or someone else's is irrelevant), I am not at all certain I would have been able to stand aside and say nothing about the coins. Tactful and diplomatic, I would have gone the extra step as you did to explain that cleaning coins is verboten and that people have been shot for less following an extended period of torture. I can only hope there was nothing really valuable in the hoard.

BTW, excessive and obsessive cleaning of ANYTHING (clothes, carpets, candlesticks, kitchens, and especially coins) is an early indication of Alzheimer's.
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 Posted 02/22/2007  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add longnine009 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

It must've been like witnessing a book burning.
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 Posted 02/22/2007  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Erm ... ammonia turns silver black... I'm 100% sure of this. Perhaps another cleaner was used?
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 Posted 02/23/2007  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen silver coins soaked in ammonia, and they did not turn black. In fact they came up very shiny.
Ruined, but very, very shiny!
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 Posted 02/23/2007  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guys, again I must disagree...

The best way to resolve this is to soak a silver coin in ammonia. I have done this before, when I studied the tell-tale signs of different artificial toning techniques. It turns the coin a very specifically-looking black.

~Roman

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 Posted 02/23/2007  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrk4lvg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope, it was ammonia. 100% undiluted ammonia. As they used it to kill the ticks they pull off the dogs shortly there after.
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 Posted 02/23/2007  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add longnine009 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't it bleach that turns silver black?
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 Posted 02/23/2007  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bonedigger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a shame, but many here remember when we cleaned out coins as kids. I used lemon juice and salt. I still have a penny book with bright ORANGE VG-8/F-12 wheatback pennies, LOL...
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 Posted 02/23/2007  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Berry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope, it was ammonia. 100% undiluted ammonia. As they used it to kill the ticks they pull off the dogs shortly there after.


Maybe biokemist can jump in here, but I think that 100% anhydrous ammonia is just as toxic and deadly as chlorine!!! I would imagine the strength of the different ammonia products used by the various forum members could have a bearing on the statements made and everyone could be correct.
Berry
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 Posted 02/23/2007  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bonedigger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chuckle, "Ticks on a dog, why waste the amonia. We'd just pull them off and then pop em' with a hammer or something."

LOL
Ben
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 Posted 02/23/2007  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ahhhhh!

I'm sorry, I was wrong. I use ammonia working with copper, bleach is what turns silver black.

I hate being the source of mis-information :( Forgive me, please.

~Roman
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 Posted 02/23/2007  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of Course, you must remember... they are Her coins... and if she likes them "shiny" then "shiny" they should be. Just a shame about the resale value.



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