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United States
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I bought this coin today and can't find the exact coin in my book. Can anyone give me some info on it. Thanks   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Charles the fourth. 2 main types "Carolus IIII" and Carolus IV"
1805, Mexico City Mint. Small Nose Variety. 5 Points of damage, 4 appear to be chop Marks. the 5th, under the right side of the crown on the REV, not sure what that is.
VG, I personally would pay about $15 over Melt for it. But could see it being worth $50-$75 to the right person.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Mexico 8 reales 1805 narrow date, KM-109. Looks like it was cleaned. Should weigh a bit under 27 grams. If genuine, worth about $55 US.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Namachieli, what is a small nose variety? Could you please either post or I'm me with a photo reference to the two types? I have never heard of any "nose" variety and am very interested in seeing what you mean.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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CoinHawkeye. Your first Spanish Colonial 8 Reales..nice coin, let the addiction begin.
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France
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Maybe he meant portrait of the previous king (Carolus III) ?
I'm aware of small and big portraits, but that's on smaller denominations.
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United States
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Namachieli - I too am very curious what the "small nose variety" is. Is there a "large nose variety" ?
Larry
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"Large nose" would have to refer to the transitional issues of Charles the 4th featuring the "bust of Charles III", which of course showed off that big schnozz.
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 United States
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Thanks for the help. It sounds like I over payed a bit for it. I think it is neat and I am sure I have spent money worse ways, so still feeling good about my purchase.
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The transitional types are only in 1789 and 1790. Which probably explains why I have never heard that term applied to a coin dated 1805. Personally I find both Carlos III and Carlos IIII to be fine looking gentlemen of obvious education, wealth and class and I bet they were a hit with the ladies of the Spanish court.
CoinHawkeye, you got a great coin and I hope it triggers a life long passion for these interesting and highly collectible historically significant coins. If you have questions about them, there are several of us here on the forum happy to share information and we are all enrolled in Swamperbobs "university of counterfeits" class that he teaches here from time to time.
Edited by jfransch
06/12/2012 10:34 pm
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United States
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I bought this one too. I was able to find this one in my book, but I will post it for your viewing pleasure.   |
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Czech Republic
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Nice one. Guadalajara Mint 1813 8 Reales struck on a cast planchet (hence the areas of porosity). Does it have a colonial edge, or the flower-rectangle of the 1812?
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United States
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So much fun! to learn history and methods of production. Quote:
8 Reales struck on a cast planchet very nice ! ;) |
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United States
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I don't know the difference between the two types of edges.  Here is a picture of it.  |
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Posted 06/09/2012 1:11 pm
