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 Posted 07/04/2012  4:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add albertharris to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
GentleCoinPeople,

My error find of the day. Coin doesn't look to be thin on one side, but missing detail on both obverse and reverse. should this be sent in to grade as an error coin?

Thank you
Al

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 Posted 07/04/2012  4:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks to be a struck through (grease) and I wouldn't send it in because it would cost more to have it slabbed then the possible value of the coin.IMHO,
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It could be a tappered planchet, which would explain the weak rims and its being weak on both sides of the coin. This type of error occurs most often on pre-clad coinage and especially on wheat/early memorial cents. Still, I don't think it has enough value as an error to benefit from being sent in for grading.
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 Posted 07/04/2012  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papatony to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe take the coin out of the 2X2 and get pics again, also of the edge affected?
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 Posted 07/05/2012  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hopper39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone else see doubling in the date?
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Thank you for all the help. When 1st looked at it out of the roll, looked at edges to see if the weak struck side was thinner. It's possible, but not pronounced; just more rounded. There is minor doubling, toward the edge away from the edge in top letters most noted on "G" in GOD. Most of the lettering is blocky if not doubled. As far as the value, I'm a collector not a dealer so profit is minor next to documenting. My wife would be happy if I made money!

The grease idea sounds interesting as I first thought it might be struck through object. Also looked like major die break with no evidence on coin because not struck in area of die break. Interesting to find....Al
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 Posted 07/05/2012  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add albertharris to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OH, this is a mintstate coin without spots, note detail in bow-tie. Probably red brown. Having fun going through all the penny rolls from estate sale! Some of the rolls were glued shut probably with old model glue. Will this glue keep ANACS from grading the coins?
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If this coin was struck on a tapered planchet, it should be slightly underweight.
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 Posted 07/05/2012  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe this is a tapered planchet, but it would have to be weighed to confirm.
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 Posted 07/05/2012  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollSeeker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that it looks like a tapered planchet, but I am curious if it might be possible that grease could have affected the reverse strike somehow. I haven't seen any Struck Through Grease quite like this, but perhaps the late die state (I at least see a good amount of die erosion) might tie in somehow too.
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The coin is 3.1 grams. I weighed other coins from the same roll on a friends scale and they all came out the same weight.
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In any event , it is a unique find!
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 Posted 08/28/2012  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add albertharris to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ANACS graded this coin MS63 RED "STRUCK ON TAPERED BLACK WEIGHT 2.96 GRAMS."
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 Posted 08/29/2012  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice error! Did you mean blank instead of black? And if so, I wonder how they could have determined it was a blank and not a planchet.
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They said "BLANK", I mistyped it in last post. I woundered about the use of blank instead of planchet as it appeared to be a planchet to me. The western-thin side is rolled nearly as thick as the other side, and my friend scale said 3.1 grams when I weighed it before it was slabbed. His scale was not accurate to 100'th of a gram so 3.0-3.1 was the best I could do. I wounder is this a common weight for thin copper planchet's?
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OK, finding out how to use new camera. Note to self, image sizes to large, take pictures at lower resolution!

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