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Red Book lists several error types, and I've read about a few other interesting items here and elsewhere: clipped planchet multiple strike blank (no rim) blank planchet (w/ rim) defective die off center broadstrike lamination brockage wrong planchet waffled coin "stamped" coin hobo nickel circulation proof rotated die misaligned die Are there any other common errors that should be considered?
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I believe the "circulation proof" is also referred to as "impaired proof". there are also coins minted with a die from the wrong year, like ASE made with obverse or reverse die from different year. There are cents with missing designer initials, not sure where that one fits in descriptions. Older coins may have RPM, or other mint mark errors.
Edited by Fuzzy317 07/11/2012 8:46 pm
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Error coin writer and researcher.
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The following are NOT errors- waffled coin= Mint cancellation of defective/damaged coinage stamped coin= usually referred to as "counterstamped" or "countermarked", a post-mint alteration done by hand-hammering a tooling die on a coin, usually in the form of numbers or letters but also distinct designs such as state outlines sometimes found on 1970s-era Lincoln Cents hobo nickel= an engraved carving made from a Buffalo nickel, popularized by hobos during the Depression who would exchange a hobo nickel for a meal or a bed for the night circulated proof= a proof that has circulated, i.e. an impaired proof
Edited by biokemist6 07/12/2012 12:23 pm
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I fail to see the point of this exercise. There are well over a hundred different 'types' of errors, and none of the collectible error types are going to pop up in your change frequently. If you are looking for a list so you can check it against the coins you search, there's no reason to do that. Look through coins until you find something that looks really odd and isn't obviously Machine Doubling or coin damage, and put it to the side. If you don't find another one in - say, 3,000 more coins - then you probably have something worthwhile. Remember that most of the collectible errors will not fit into a roll of coins because they are the wrong shape or size. Finding them in "rolls" is going to be next to impossible.
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Quote: Hobo nickels are not errors,nor are RPM's. Thanks, I know they aren't errors. I wrote "errors ... and other interesting items ..." I'm looking to get one example of many of these interesting things. I already have an off-center strike, a lamination error, a clipped planchet, a die error and a blank planchet. I plan to put together a small album (maybe just be a page or two) of examples. Quote:Try this site, it has a list of error types http://error-ref.com/index.html Thank you for the link! That is very helpful. I'm also interested in learning about additional non-error oddities along the lines of hobo nickels.
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Quote: I fail to see the point of this exercise. That is likely due to poor communication on my part. Quote: There are well over a hundred different 'types' of errors Wow! I had no idea. In that case I'm probably only interested in the MAJOR or COMMON error types. Quote: If you are looking for a list so you can check it against the coins you search, there's no reason to do that. Agreed. Quote: Remember that most of the collectible errors will not fit into a roll of coins because they are the wrong shape or size. Finding them in "rolls" is going to be next to impossible. I don't doubt that is true. I don't search rolls, except for the few rolls of nickels I got to find 1962+ nickels. I filled in most of the holes and bought the rest. I'm not a roll hunter or a dealer. I'm a collector - a buyer. I'm trying to decide what errors and other oddities I wish to PURCHASE to have a reasonably interesting "Errors and Oddities" collection. Here is a link to a similar endeavor in stamp collecting: http://www.colp.info/stamps/beyond.htmThis just seemed like an interesting pursuit. I'm not looking for anything too elaborate, but I don't want to miss any major error types or truly notable oddities.
Edited by larsdog 07/12/2012 10:14 pm
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This reminded me of a book I bought long ago called "major variety and oddity-guide to United States coins" eighth edition by Frank G. Spadone (1981). Anyone know if this book was ever updated?
Edited by DrDon 07/12/2012 10:47 pm
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Spadone's book came out from the late 1960s through the mid 1980s. He was a dealer of sorts, and none of the content of the book was based in any sort of reality except his own. He named hundreds - if not thousands - of 'varieties' and 'oddities' that were either common junk or never existed in the first place. While it can be used as a reference on the history of error and variety collecting, it is one of the most inaccurate references published to date.
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If you want a good book on errors, I would recommend Official Price Guide to Mint Errors 7th Ed. by Alan Herbert. The title is a bit of a misnomer as it only gives general values by type without regard to denomination or series. The book utilizes Herbert's PDS classification system- Planchet, Die, Strike- to describe more than 400 errors, die varieties, and other miscellaneous occurrences during the minting process.
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Quote: If you want a good book on errors, I would recommend Official Price Guide to Mint Errors 7th Ed. by Alan Herbert. Thanks!
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I was not in any way recommending the book.I was saying that the original post with ""stamped" coin hobo nickel" reminded me of the book and I was curious if it survived. Thanks for the input.
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