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Concave/Convex Baseball Hof Commems?

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So I just saw this article in my inbox:

http://www.coinnews.net/2012/07/13/...ative-coins/

Interesting, very interesting. Does the U.S. Mint even have the capability of pulling off something like this? I wonder how it would be done... would the planchets be pre-formed and then stamped on a concave / convex die set? Or would the dies do all the work? Or something else completely?
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I have no idea, but as a huge Baseball fan I cannot wait to see how this coin turns out
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These sound interesting. Can't wait to see how they turn out.
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im with basebal21. I am also a huge baseball fan and the jackie robinson commem as well as the 92 olympic coins already hold a place in my collection.
this one really has me excited and it may be time to start saving up to buy the whole set!
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I'm also a fan of baseball, but can't help but think there is a better cause for which the surcharges could be directed. Granted it's anyone's personal choice to spend the money to buy a coin and thus their personal choice to indirectly pay money to support the National Baseball Hall of Fame, but it just doesn't seem right to give surcharges to an institution that's far from needy.
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I'm also a fan of baseball, but can't help but think there is a better cause for which the surcharges could be directed. Granted it's anyone's personal choice to spend the money to buy a coin and thus their personal choice to indirectly pay money to support the National Baseball Hall of Fame, but it just doesn't seem right to give surcharges to an institution that's far from needy.


Its just a common practice they do with all the commems. Its the commem that drives where the money goes not where the money goes that drives the commem.

If we were going to pick commems based on where the money would go we would have nothing but disease commems, third world countries, homeless commems ect.
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Does the U.S. Mint even have the capability of pulling off something like this?


The Mint definitely had the capability at one time...

In 1972, a National Commemorative Medal in honor of Roberto Clemente was struck by the US Mint. It featured convex surfaces on the obverse and reverse to simulate a baseball. Below are images of the obverse and reverse along with my attempt at an edge shot.

The medal is bronze and is 3.0 inches (76 mm) in diameter. At the rim, the medal measures about 2.2 mm, while at its center it measures 11 mm. The medal weighs 10.1 ounces (288 grams).

As I've been a life-long baseball fan (and played the game for 30 years), I'm looking forward to seeing the coin. I do agree, however, that coins for the National Baseball Hall of Fame aren't exactly the most "worthy" of official US coins. And it might have started an "unworthy" trend -- the Football Hall of Fame is now also seeking a coin!

Enjoy!


1972 Clemente Medal - Obverse

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1972 Clemente Medal - Reverse

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1972 Clemente Medal - Edge

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I do agree, however, that coins for the National Baseball Hall of Fame aren't exactly the most "worthy" of official US coins.


Its just as worthy as many of the other moderns in terms of significance considering what it has meant to the country over the years. Lets also not forget how huge it was to give New Yorkers especially something up lifting after 9-11. But yea they probably dont need any money.

I kind of hope they do two versions of this coin one with the concave look and another just as a regular coin. 2014 cant come fast enough
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I am looking forward to this one. I haven't bought many commemorative coins over the past few years but I too am a baseball fan and will definitely grab this one.

Thanks for the pictures of the Roberto Clemente medal, commems! Very cool.

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At the end of the day, the surcharges go to a shrine of hero worship that is already well-funded. There have certainly been more worthy commemoratives than this, although I agree it's just as worthy as some other lame modern commems.

I guess this opens the door for other similar themed commens. I suppose football and NASCAR commems are next.

Or maybe now that baseball is done, maybe commems for "Mom" and "apple pie" are next.
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Hey Commems - this seems like a good next topic for you: Unusual Shaped Commemoratives!
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I'm not in to baseball, its a dying sport and its losing popularity. That said, its still our national pastime. Although, I'm fairly certain there are more important things to commemorate. Anywho, I think that the concave/convex thing is really cool
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I'm not in to baseball, its a dying sport and its losing popularity


Not sure what you're basing that observation on, but the facts don't line up with it. While football has definitely risen to incredible heights of popularity, it has not meant that baseball is dying. Over 30,000 fans, on average, attend every major league baseball game -- that's across all teams for the entire 162 game schedule! The current average attendance level is higher than at any time in the past when baseball was the undisputed national pastime. I wouldn't get out your shovel to bury baseball just yet!



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Agree with commems about baseball.

Definitely hard to compare baseball and football since football has so few games. Id suspect that if either sport adopted a schedule similar to the other attendance would be about the same. If you look at the other sports with longer schedules like the NBA and NHL baseball remains king
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commems, as a YN, I just don't see many people my age talk about baseball the same way they talk about football, basketball, and soccer. I don't know many,(if any) statistics regarding this, but it seems as if the generation before mine is obsessed with baseball, but my generation just doesn't seem to care. Its the same thing that caused stamp collecting to become a relatively minor hobby. Youth perceived it as boring, (rightfully or wrongfully so) thus there aren't as many stamp collectors as there used to be. Unfortunately, I believe the same thing is happening to coin collecting. Only one of my friends is even remotely interested in numismatics. Now, I admit that Seattle is not the most baseball friendly city, and why not? the mariners suck,(no offense to Seattle Mariners fans).So, my overall vibe of what people are paying attention to may be geographically biased. But as far as sports in seattle, no one can beat the sounders.
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Canada could definitely see how people are sour on the sport in seattle. Not a very friendly baseball climate to begin with. Rest assured though that the sport is still very healthy in many parts of the country. You are right that for high school less kids do try out, but at the same time you arent really losing many of the top notch players to other sports and were even starting to see more of the two sport college studs pick baseball over the NHL like Scmarcidia (I know I spelled that horribly wrong) for the cubs.
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