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 Posted 07/19/2012  2:45 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add epikur to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Having difficulties grading this. Not sure if it ends up in the XF range or not.

Using http://www.barbercoins.org/Grading-BH.html
The thing is, the band under liberty is not complete, so it wouldn't fulfill the VF-30 criteria, but on the other hand, the hair under liberty is showing, and the wings are completely separated...

What do you think? What weighs more on the grading; the band or the hair/feathers?

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 Posted 07/19/2012  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd be right in the mid VF area on this one, VF25-30 sounds about right but, I'd have to say looks to have been lightly cleaned at one time.
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 Posted 07/19/2012  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello, epikur,
Anyone who mentions barbercoins.org is my friend!
I am also going to say high VF.
The lower band is complete but not bold.
If you have not done so already, use the BCCS to link
to the David Lawrence Guide to Barber halves.
The 1899 was well struck.
Any Barber Half in fine or above is tough to find.
Matthew - contributing editor Barber Coin Collectors' Society Journal

Oh, we Barber people are most fussy about the Liberty band.

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07/19/2012 4:08 pm
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 Posted 07/19/2012  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add epikur to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey matthew....I use barbercoins.org alot. Find it really informative, and since I like barbers in general..

thing is about this coin, there are more evidence that it's a XF (hair under liberty band, wing tips) than there are VF, and it still would fall under the VF-grade?

since I'm the owner, I guess I'm kinda biased when I say I want it XF. I can settle for a VF-39.5 though :P
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 Posted 07/19/2012  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add atlashealth to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
old cleaning...VF details
if the two bands surrounding LIBERTY were complete
then it would grade EF...CHEERS!

WOW...a celebrity in our midst
I agree and echo MatthewVincent!!


apparently you have to use this web address for Barber coins
www.barbercoins.org/grading to get to the correct site..enjoy!
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I think it is at least a VF-35 and maybe EF-40 but the coin look like it has been cleaned.
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atlashealth,
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The lack of luster even in the protected areas indicate some sort of cleaning unfortunately. If not for that, it would have been a VF30 in my estimation.
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VF-35, nice coin!
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VF-30 IMO.
Defintely cleaned at one point, very muted and dull surfaces.
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