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Lesson 1: The two easy numbers.
Numeral 1 is ١
Numeral 9 is ٩
19 is ١٩
91 is ٩١
And 1991 is ١٩٩١
Or, from right to left: ١٩٩١!
Lesson 2: It gets trickier!
So, ٥ must be a zero, right? WRONG!
٥ is a 5!
١٩٩٥ is 1995
١٩٩٠ is 1990!
50 is ٥٠
1950 is ١٩٥٠
1905 is ١٩٠٥
0 is ٠.
[Confused? So am I!]
Lesson 3: When the "7" is really a "6!"
The number ٦ is the number 6. Sorry!
It looks like a seven, but it isn't.
1966 is ١٩٦٦
1977 is ١٩٧٧
The number 7 is ٧.
Lucky ٧!
1776 is ١٧٧٦ Yeah USA!
1789 is ١٧٨٩ Vive la France!
So ...
Lesson 4: What goes down, goes up!
8 is one more than 7. Down turns up. And ...
8 is ٨.
Lesson 5: And the last two ...
3 and 4 - 3 strokes and 4 strokes.
٣ - compare 2 and 3 - ٣ = 3 and 2 = ٢
4 = ٤ it is an "E"
NOW, are Arabic numbers THAT scary?
Oops! Sometimes the numbers are written from right to left instead of left to right. BE FLEXIBLE!
PI = ٣.١٤١٥٩٢٦٥
I can do this for Chinese/Japanese numbers if there is any interest.
Edited by matthewvincent
07/31/2012 4:00 pm
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The Unicode symbols for the 2 and 3 are kinda smallish to easily see the difference ... another post with a good Arabic to western chart VVV https://goccf.com/t/122602 |
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It sometimes helps to turn the page (or coin) sideways. Numerals 2, 3 and 7 look much more like their Western counterparts when rotated 90 degrees anticlockwise.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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The Arabic number for 2 has two strokes and the number 3 has three strokes.
Remember this and the rest is easy.
Folks, it is only ten symbols!
It is not that difficult.
Until three days ago I was clueless!
Not entirely, as I knew 1, 2 and 3.
Shall I go on to Chinese?
Thai?
Hindi?
Cyrillic will be a breeze compared to Arabic!
[Russian, Belorussian, Ukrainian, etc.]
10 numbers per each language ... It AIN'T SO HARD!
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I wouldn't mind seeing Cyrillic numbers!
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Patience, svslav!
Let's see if my help with Arabic numerals does not [ or DOES ] meet with resistance.
I'm thinking, for Cyrillic, the words for gold, silver, change [as contrasted
to paper money]
The actual numbers are the same - 1, 2 ,3
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Folks, it is only ten symbols!
It is not that difficult.
matthewvincent No one thus far said it was difficult. I just mentioned that the Arabic symbols were small and hard to see in your original post... so, I set my monitor to %200... ... and they are way easier to distinguish... I can clearly see a mistake now... Quote:
" ٣ - compare 2 and 3 - ٣ = 3 and 2 = ٢ "
matthewvincent ^^^... shouldn't it be " ٢ - compare 2 and 3 - ٣ = 3 and 2 = ٢ " Crank that monitor zoom to see the...  |
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I'm thinking, for Cyrillic, the words for gold, silver, change [as contrasted
to paper money]
The actual numbers are the same - 1, 2 ,3 Russian coins from the early 1700s used the traditional Cyrillic numerals to denote the date. Peter the Great abolished them as part of his modernization campaign. This alphanumeric code is based on the Greek numeral system devised in ancient times and occasionally used to denote dates and denominations on ancient Greek coins. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Here are links for fairly comprehensive guides for the following numerals:
Arabic
http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /Inst-ID/Arabic.htm
Chinese
http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/Chinese.htm
Hebrew
http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/Israeli.htm
Japanese
http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/Japan.php
Thai
http://(131231) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed /countries/Thai.htm
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I recently decided it was about time I learnt some of these numbering systems. Within a week I was able to read and write Japanese, Arabic and Thai numbers. It certainly makes collecting coins from these countries a whole lot less scary. Steve  |
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it would be nice to set up an excel file with each language (aribic, chinese, etc) and the english version side by side. That would be a very helpful tool for those of us who do not know much about the number systems of other countries yet. so it could be set up like this
English Arabic Chinese ETC ETC
1 - - - -
2 - - - -
and maybe even add those good tips like how the arabic numbers can be written either way. thanks for the lesson!
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Or you can just look in SCWC:  |
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ahh nevermind. sorry I have two copies of the 2010 edition that I got from a second hand book store. the 1901-2000 edition had that page missing. when I looked in the 2001-2010 edition, I found that page. thanks for the tip... sorry for the rediculous suggestion...since it already existed.
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Throughout last year once a week I went to my son's second grade and did various "Math" activities with the kids. One day I dedicated dating world coins. I gave the handouts with different numerals, explained the differences in calendars, and then we dated some Thai, Japanese, Arabic, Ottoman Turkish,(old) Georgian, and some European (dated in Roman numerals) coins. Everybody had fun.
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To IBGolden,
I can no longer edit the original post. Sorry.
To svslav,
Mea culpa! I did not know that earlier coins used an older system. Peter the Great
was keen on changing Russia into a Western European nation. I did not know that this was
one of his ideas. The design and layout of St. Petersburg was done deliberately to convince the west that
Russia was not a backward country.
Your math project, dating coins in non-western numerals, was a brilliant one. I salute you!
To triggersmob,
Would you consider sending me a PM outlining how you learned these number systems?
"Within a week I was able to read and write Japanese, Arabic and Thai numbers. It certainly makes collecting coins from these countries a whole lot less scary."
To make coins "less scary" is at the heart of my poor lesson. There are many lists of these numbers.
But how does one learn them? Please share.
To all:
"Give a man a fish, he eats for a day.
Teach a man how to fish, he eats for a lifetime."
My agenda is to teach collectors how to date coins in a different system.
Is this a worthy goal?
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