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I picked this coin up on ebay for 99 cents along with three more cents. Just wondering if this was a high nine.  |
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Cant help with that but just wanted to say that is a nice Coin
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Looks like a low 9 to me. John1  |
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It is a high 9. There are slight variations with the date spacing and height of the last 9 (sort of like the 1896 far 6). As bosox said earlier, the George V series could be ripe for a die study.
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In the High 9 the bottom of the 2nd nine is in line with the 1 and the 2. In the Low 9 it's below them. Yours is high (no jokes please!  ).  Edited by kuh_85
08/07/2012 09:23 am
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I made the coin a bit brighter so you can see the scan better.The other coins were a 32, 33, and 35.  |
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the coin in the photo looks at little rotated. the second 9 is still a little higher but I thought the tail on the second 9 had to be level with the bottom of the 2? (coinsandcanada.com photos show a really really high 9)
how many variations of this are there? no pun intented, literally where do we draw the line?
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how many variations of this are there? no pun intented, literally where do we draw the line? That depends how many matrices were made, or how dies were made from a single matrix, with the last digit punched by hand. We won't know the answer to that question, without a proper die study. Just from my own eyes, there are two types of "high 9", this one, and one that is even farther away from the 2, and bit higher. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Just wondering, how would it be possible to punch in the last number by hand? That would work for an engraving or stamping, but to create a raised surface?
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When the mint made an original engraving, it took an artist, was labor intensive, and therefore the result was precious. They did not use it to directly mint coins. In Victorian times, the original hand engraving was usually incuse and called a matrix. I'm not sure whether or not at Ottawa the original was an incuse matrix, or a master punch in relief. In order to mass produce the design of the hand engraved matrix, yet protect it, The Royal Mint would use the matrix to press one or more punches (in relief, since the matrix was incuse). They then used the punch(es) to produce multiple dies in incuse. In this fashion, they generated many dies from one hand engraved image. Since the dies were incuse, the mint staff often made repairs and corrections by manually punching them into each die, often making each die unique. The incuse die then stamped out thousands of coins in relief. As I said, this description is accurate for Victorian coinage at The Royal Mint. Procedures at Ottawa may have varied in the details. http://www.victoriancent.com2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA.
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08/07/2012 10:17 pm
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kuh_85, what grade is your high 9?
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