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Any Help Or Advice For NZ $2 Error Coin

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 Posted 08/07/2012  11:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add thedan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a $2 NZ coin. I checked it with a Coin collecting shop a few years ago when I got it, and he confirmed that it is real. I have no experience in this field, but would like any advice, evaluation, etc that anyone could offer.
I acquired it in 2004, in my change. being that it has no pressing on it, I can't give you a date. It has both the correct edge, and rim. it also has a small marks around the rim where it looks like it was pressed, but left no images on either side of the coin.
I have some images that may help.
Thanks.

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 Posted 08/08/2012  02:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it blank on both sides then?
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 Posted 08/08/2012  03:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TrickyxMick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks awesome to me.
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 Posted 08/08/2012  04:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it has the "correct rim" for a New Zealand $2 coin (a security edge) then I'm pretty sure it must be post-mint damage rather than an error, because I'm pretty sure the edge is applied by the collar die at the same time as the obverse and reverse are applied with the main dies. A genuine unstruck $2 planchet should have a plain edge.
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 Posted 08/08/2012  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thedan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is blank on both sides. It doesn't look like it has post-mint damage. When I took it to a coin shop guy, he weighed it and it was the correct, and he confirmed it was a real $2 coin. This was about 8 years ago. The surface looks real smooth, except for the little bits around near the rims, where it looks like it was struck. as pictured about. How would I go about finding out if it was post-mint damage?
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 Posted 08/08/2012  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Post a picture of the rim.
How much does it weigh?
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 Posted 08/08/2012  08:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thedan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll have to get back to you on that. I tried but my camera wouldn't focus. I'll also have to find some scales. I don't collect coins or anything like that. So I'll see what I can work out. It's bed time for me, so I'll try and re-post in the next day or so. Thanks.
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 Posted 08/09/2012  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thedan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have Weighed and measured my coin.
Weight: 9.95 grams
Diameter: 26mm
Width: 2mm
I don't actually have a proper ruler at home. so I had to use a real cheap measuring tape from cheap sowing kit. I was also told that scales weren't the "most accurate" either by the owner. But I hope this helps in getting a clearer picture. I can't get any better pictures of my coin either I'm afraid. You can see the 2 definitive marks, that follow the rim some what. And the big one in the picture actually left a mark on the rim. The other side of the coin has no marks as the pictured one does.
I would love to know more about this coin and can try and do more investigation if needed to help you guys, help me learn more about it. Thanks.
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 Posted 08/10/2012  03:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I think a New Zealand $2 coin is meant to weight 10.00g, so 9.95g seems alright. If the scales weren't accurate you might want to find some better scales though (needs to read at least to the 0.01g).
Can you get a picture of the side of the coin?
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 Posted 08/10/2012  03:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thedan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the side of the coin. and the weight. The scales I used were from the conservation dept. at the Museum I work at. So the might be too accurate then for the purpose of weighing a coin. Usually they weigh much larger things.

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 Posted 08/11/2012  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I'm not sure about value.
You could try looking through some local or Australian auction catalogues for something similar (the old catalogues and prices realised are normally posted on their websites).
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 Posted 08/12/2012  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Something I noticed when I was there a few weeks ago is there isn't a huge market for NZ error coins. Out of interest which dealer did you visit?
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 Posted 08/12/2012  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thedan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back then it was a shop at the bottom of queen st, in auckland. What site/s do you recommend I look at?
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 Posted 08/13/2012  07:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If it has the "correct rim" for a New Zealand $2 coin (a security edge) then I'm pretty sure it must be post-mint damage rather than an error, because I'm pretty sure the edge is applied by the collar die at the same time as the obverse and reverse are applied with the main dies. A genuine unstruck $2 planchet should have a plain edge.


I think you'll find that most coins that have incuse elements on the edges, like lettering or security rims like this are applied before or after striking. The reason being that the coin press would need some sort of fancy split collar to enable the struck coin to be withdrawn.
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 Posted 08/14/2012  05:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What site/s do you recommend I look at?


Here are a few auction websites (all Australian):
http://www.iagauctions.com/
https://www.roxburys.com/
http://www.statusint.com/
http://www.downies.com/aca/
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 Posted 08/15/2012  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thedan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Couldn't find anything, but it's cool. Thanks heaps though. Might try again in 20 years or something. May even see if I can make an error coin nz set or something. Cheers.
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