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 Posted 08/30/2012  6:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I live in a victorian house and we've found things forgotten under the floorboards before (a full jar of very very toxic Victorian oven cleaner, for example, for which we had to leave the house when it was opened due to the horrid smell and headache inducing fumes).

Anyway, any tips on where to find treasure? Theres not many floorboards I can look under, so thats not much of an option, but any tips would be good.

Ive already looked into one Chimney and found an intriguing hole in the back right corner which I cannot see the back of, could this be a hidey hole?
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 Posted 08/30/2012  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, I do hope you find something good! I think hunting for treasure in your own home would be lots of fun.

Check for false/hollow walls inside of closets.

Measure the rooms and the width of walls to see if there's a 'missing' foot somewhere.

I have heard that sometimes the tops of doors were hollowed out and valuables tucked inside were covered with a strip of veneer -- so tap the top of doors and hope for a 'hollow' sound.

A contractor once told me that he often found old US cents when he removed bathroom walls. Sometimes there are medicine cabinets with a slot for disposing old razor blades and kids would drop pennies down them. That would mean removing a wall....so probably not worth it.

And finally, check for an empty pipe suspended from the basement ceiling.

I'm sure there are more places to look but that's all I can think of for now.

Good luck!
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 Posted 08/31/2012  01:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The garden is also a good place to find some nice stuff..
In the garden of my parents I found things dated back till 1400/1500.. First I made some small test holes to find out where they dumped there waste back then.. Once found I was surprised what showed up.. I only did a few cubic meter and all with a homemade 8mm sieve and water.. I had 2 years on and off fun finding thousands of pottery/glass fragments and lots of other things.. (coins, spoons, clay pipes, toys, etc, etc) In the winter I had a really challenging "jig-saw".. Some pottery I restored that way.. When I bought my own place, I didn't have any time anymore but a lot a cubic meters left to search.. I kept everything in boxes and they still stored back at my parents place.. When I have time in the future I certainly will continue...
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 Posted 08/31/2012  03:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Australia does not have an extensive history to have an interesting buried archeology.
If you want to have fun with a metal detector, you get out into the bush and look for gold nuggets or in my case, rough gemstones.

I have foud a few small sapphires and zircons with a 25 / 5 mm sieve set.

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I was the executor to an uncle's estate and I had to completely clean every room of his house out, and prepare the house for auction.

The house was full of junk to be thrown out, and I filled 5 ton truck with things to be disposed of as trash, to be given to charity, or for auction.

I found a book with $50 in it, then another, then another. Eventually, I found about $2,500 in mint fresh, but very old notes. I found several buckets with some rags over them. They yielded about another $500, mostly in nice condition coins all around 40 years old.

All of that was surrendered to the solicitor to be put in a trust account. I did NOT want top be sued because there were 22 beneficiaries in the Will, most of whom I did not know, and that was the reason for the surrender of the found cash. My wife was one of the beneficiaries

Didn't find any gold sovereigns or anything, but I did find an interesting up market Omega gold Seamaster watch, in perfect working order.

I gave the gold watch outside the provisions of the will, to his son.

The whole cleaning out job took about six weeks of weekend work.
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 Posted 08/31/2012  03:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I detected, I would love to search my grandparents old property (its still in the family). They bought it in the 1940's and there have been Native Indian artifacts found on one hill top. Mostly arrow heads and a few axe heads. Hope you find something interesting.
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 Posted 08/31/2012  06:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would love to get a metal detector and do the garden - bound to be full of stuff, as some of it has been churned over. In one of the flower beds was a very very very old Scaffhold base.

We have already found some treasures about (in the past) - including a full pack of victorian cigarettes (now in the local museum's collection) and the best treasure of all, the initials of every worker who has worked on our roof since 1889. What happened was the workers would carve their initials and the date into the lead lining on part of our roof. I havent been able to look over the whole strip of lead, but the oldest I found was 1889. In 1936, someone carved their name into solid lead *caligraphically*.

Good plan Buddy, Ill definitely do the door thing. Most of the doors are original, except doors for modern partitions, which are still victorian, but have been brought in from condemned houses. However, all the cupboards are either new (in the last 50 or so years) or full of the biggest spiders you've ever seen. The rooms are all the correct length.

One interesting thing is attic space...theres a very convoluted entrance to a section of attic space, but for many reasons, mainly the cupboard below it was collapsing, we never got to look in it. Our house onced housed a jack the ripper suspect (hes basically been cleared of it though) so I'm not sure how excited I am to look into a flat attic space 6 ft long and 4ft wide.
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 Posted 08/31/2012  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Check the walkways to and from the house, old farm fields as farmers often dropped things while working with animals or bending down... In and around barns as well...
I found a 1862 Indian head under boards in my friends barn while tearing up a floor..
Not with a detector though...
My first metal detector find was actually yesterday .. and it was near an old cellar hole that my friend brought me to... As he finds things all the time and I never do... Well I owe him big now because apparently he knows his spots... He finds coins all the time...
The pics do this coin no justice... It's actually a better color and not porous as the pic appears... I suck at photographing coins... Lol

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And all I have for a detector is a cheap(er) bounty hunter tracker 2... So even with $150 detectors you can make some amazing finds...
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 Posted 08/31/2012  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats on the finds! I'm afraid my home town hasnt been a farming town for a long time. Theres many a picture of my road with my house with horses and carriages but unfortunately no evidence of a stables.

However, there are many large trees which can be seen in the victorian photos (one got chopped down without permission...really changed the whole look of the road) so I could detect around those with the owner's permission.

Bad news on the metal detecting front, I've looked at the garden and how its been altered and it appears all the top soil was taken away when it was renovated. Originally, there should have been a slope, which was removed when the house was built, which removes earlier medieval finds out of the question. The gardens will not turn out more than victorian finds.

However, next time they tear up the road may be a good thing to hunt (if I ever get a detector) due to the history of my town and road. It is believed that the name originates from a small stream that once present there, of which no information remains (speculation...).

A victorian house plot where the house burnt down (way back before WWII probably) has recently been churned uip and turned into a little flower bed. The original victorian front step was torn out, so I guess nothing good will have been left there.

There is also a small area tucked away that used to be used to grow fruit trees, which was torn up by a guy without permission. He hasnt been able to build on it, so there may still be good stuff there.

I could also look for the location of a mint in a town quite nearby (driving distance) from around 800AD, thats not been located yet, but 1 coin minted there was found.
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 Posted 08/31/2012  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@sel, no surprise the sea-master was working, Omega may not be as desirable as some brands but they certainly are well made and durable watches... I have two watches a "good" one and a spare which is incedently a sea-master...I wear that for any sports/diving/mechanics etc because it is impervious to damage.

Good luck to all in their search for old stuff buried in the garden... it was finding an old half-crown in the back garden that got me started :)
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 Posted 10/03/2012  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im bringing this back, I had sort of stopped my search when I realised something, which was staring me in the face.

The shelf I use to put all my books on is an old one well bolted into the wall (not victorian, but old). Only today did I realise that the shelf is longer on the bottom that the top (its in a bay). Hmmmm. This is a difference of up to 5cm. How could I find out whats back there? Theres brick under the shelf and drywall above the shelf.

any ideas?
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 Posted 10/05/2012  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm having trouble picturing the shelf. I keep imagining a built-in bookcase.

My guess is that if it is bolted to the wall there is probably nothing behind it because it would too hard to open any trap door. Removing and replacing the bolts would make the holes in the wall bigger and bigger to the point that they would be useless.

So, maybe if the shelf lifts out there is a hiding spot in the shelf itself that you could see from the back.Perhaps the shelf has a hollow spot...maybe?

Next time you take the books down to dust you could take a look. But 5cm is small and it is possible that the it was simply made a little bit off.

But it is exciting to think about.


By the way, our house is 81 years old and we have found a few little odd things here and there. The funniest was in the bathroom.

The linen closet is beside the bathtub and the pipes to the tub are inside the closet. When my husband went to replace the tub faucet he needed to replace a bit of the pipe to make it fit so while he was reaching around there he found a stash of...um, we'll call them gentleman's magazines. They were old but not antiques. Still, it was pretty funny to find them.
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 Posted 10/06/2012  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep looking those old housed hold secrets. I had a friend renovating an old farm house in Oregon. He was adding on and when he tore out a wall there was a $5 liberty gold piece sitting on a cross member.
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 Posted 10/06/2012  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broseph to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Free gold is always nice... wish I owned gold XD
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 Posted 10/07/2012  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a story about 75 gold sovereigns...for another day.

Bad news, the wall hides piping! Darns.

Theres other bits of the house which are hollow which have been closed since at least before the previous owners (so atr least 1970s) which could be good. And one area is hollow and we know theres something there, our millenium Time Capsule!
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Awesome find, NathanASE.

What a beauty!
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 Posted 10/07/2012  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
aussie builders had a tradtion up until around the 70's, every building they built they would leave silver coins under the front and back door and under the fire hearth, as a kid I found many crawling under our houses to search those spots.
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