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This arrived from the US today, I like it  What garde would you give this one?   |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Nice coin, Mr. Trout...I picked up a large bunch of silver yesterday and, it had one of these in it, 1921S.  Yours looks MS to me but, I don't grade these so I'm guessing.  |
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The VAM encyclopedia lists 26 different varieties to this year and because of the master die problem and weak strikes were common. Your pictures are tough for me to interpret. I spent 30 minutes enlarging each to see if I could pick up wear. It really didn't help, all it did was get blurry. It does look Mint State to me also. However, the weakness of the strike, or at least how it appears in the photo, is confusing. I don't know if I am confusing the weakness of the strike with circulation wear. Ever the optimist and from my reading and limited exposure to the 1921 Philadelphia, I'd have to guess at a 62. I think the lack of discernible berries on the reverse, the flatness of the obverse, and number of marks and abrasions on her face detracts from the grade. This is really one I'd have to see in hand. Just my opinion though. Oh, there's one Mod (I forget his name) that had over 100 of the 1921s (I've only have a couple hundred of most years) and I'll bet he'll have a completely different opinion. Still a beautiful piece though. Thanks for sharing.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Your photo isn't real sharp but from what I can make out your coin looks MS-63.
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Oh, there's one Mod (I forget his name) that had over 100 of the 1921s (I've only have a couple hundred of most years) and I'll bet he'll have a completely different opinion.
 This one is, at worst, a strong slider. The images are inconclusive but my gut tells me it hasn't circulated. That being the case, MS62/63. Trout, do you have another Morgan? If so, could you compare the reeding of the two? They should seem very similar - perhaps not identical, if your eyes are sharp enough - but the '21 might have noticeably fewer reeds. I'd like to know if by some chance it does. The reed spacing I see in the first (obverse) image has me wondering. |
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This one is, at worst, a strong slider. The images are inconclusive but my gut tells me it hasn't circulated. That being the case, MS62/63.
Trout, do you have another Morgan? If so, could you compare the reeding of the two? They should seem very similar - perhaps not identical, if your eyes are sharp enough - but the '21 might have noticeably fewer reeds. I'd like to know if by some chance it does. The reed spacing I see in the first (obverse) image has me wondering.
Thanks Dave, I have taken another scan of the 21 with a 02 next to it and cannot spot the difference ( My eyes are pretty RS ) . I have a usb gizmo, Is there any area that you want me to enlarge? I took high res scans but had to strip the size to post them  |
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Thanks Dave, I have taken another scan of the 21 with a 02 next to it and cannot spot the difference I'm actually glad to hear that. There are a few known 1921's with Infrequent Reeding, as it's called, and they're highly interesting if not particularly uncommon. Except one. All but one known IR variety uses the D1 reverse. The D2-reversed IR is an astonishing rarity, one of only a very few R8 Morgans. As far as I know, there aren't a half-dozen known. Your 1921 has a D2 reverse. Had it been IR, I'd probably have had my coronary right there. Aside that, I can see nothing which would make it a value-added variety; with the 1921's, all such have easily-recognizable features. Even with the best of photography, the only reliable way to make the high AU-Mint State differentiation would be in-hand inspection, and the delta in value wouldn't warrant the effort anyway. |
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I printed out an enlarged scan and counted the denticals. I found 151, Is this normal?  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I will say MS-62 based on the photo's provided
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Pillar of the Community
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I shall ever remember! SsuperDdave!
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Sorry guys, on second thought, I'm 65, I really can't promise anything about my memory anymore!
Edited by carmykle
09/08/2012 8:38 pm
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I believe the "reeding" is on the actual edge of the coin. I don't think SD meant the denticles.
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Posted 09/07/2012 10:46 am
