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New Member
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anyone have any idea about this coin!   ***Edited by Susanlynn9 to include better images*** |
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Forum Mom
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Welcome to CC!
Could you crop the pictures closer to the coin and make them larger? It would really help.
Edited to add: Better pics added in OP
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It certainly isn't real, though it's more a "fantasy" than a "fake" - it looks like a cross between an American and a Mexican coin. What's it say around the very American-looking eagle? Looks like "UNITED MEXXIGO AMERICA"! I reckon someone in China was trying to copy a Mexican and/or an American dollar from memory... I think Swamperbob would have a field day with this one.  Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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"MAXXICO". I was close.  Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
Czech Republic
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I remember reading about a similar piece - let me see if I can dig-up an article.
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thanks "TwoKopeiki" for the article
SO. it's a fantasy coin and worth nothing
Edited by namero
03/15/2007 4:28 pm
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"Fantasy" doesn't necessarily mean "worthless" - but it probably won't be worth as much as a "real" Mexican dollar to a regular coin collector. If it is a product of the Chinese fake industry, it almost certainly won't be made of silver.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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This is not a "fake coin", as it isn't intended to replicate any valid existing coins. It's just some sort of token.
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I think, in China, they call it "ART".  Hi, what can you say more?! |
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Pillar of the Community
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A good-luck token, I think, judging from the article above.
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New Member
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well, it's 100% silver>>iam sure of that
"TwoKopeiki"
how do I know that the man who wrote the article came up with the real source of this coin
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I'm sorry but how can you claim that it's silver? Please don't kindly tell us that the "color" seems to be like silver because it's extremely deceptive.
Counterfeiters can use a nickel-cupro alloy and then plate it with a thin layer of silver and that does a fair amount of trick.
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The writer quotes a poster on these boards, Swamperbob, whos vast knowledge of counterfeits is un-matched. Next time he's around, Bob should be able to confirm the following quote: quote:
I own a copy of the 1884 Zs 8R counterfeit that uses the IDENTICAL type face to the Maxxico coin. I suspect that the same master die was used on both coins. I own a progression of forgeries of the 1884 Zs coin in which the legend and designs become more and more corrupt. At present I have identified 6 stages in the transformation. I have 13 different coins. The earliest I would peg the transition from J to I is about 1960 — prior to that the forgers at least had the J correct but often used a full J instead of the Straight J. The newest versions often use a $ in place of the s superscripts in the legend. These $ copies date to the post 1985 era. The Maxxico coin comes rather late in the sequence but prior to the $." Based on when he first encountered the Maxxico pieces, he estimates that these have existed at least since 2001, or perhaps even five years earlier than that. "But I have heard from other collectors that they have been around far longer." He laments that we may never know anything factual about these pieces "until we get someone to confess to creating them. I have been able to cultivate a relationship with a couple forgers (the ones that actually make some of these fakes)", all of them from mainland China. Some of them even offer bulk deals on their ersatz merchandise. "But I have never found the Maxxico piece in anyone's inventory."
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Don't get discouraged, namero. Just because what you have is a counterfeit, doesn't mean it's worthless. There are collectors, like Bob, specializing in contemporary and modern versions.
~Roman
Edited by TwoKopeiki
03/16/2007 4:53 pm
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Posted 03/15/2007 04:56 am
