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 Posted 03/15/2007  09:58 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add vincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I can't understand why there are so many 2007 gold buffalos available on E-bay. I've checked the mint and the mintage for 2006 buffalo is far greater than the 2007. Am I missing something, or is this a chance to buy a rare coin?
THANKS,
VINCENT

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 Posted 03/15/2007  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AuldFartte to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome, Vincent !!!

I think that the only reason is because they are so readily available, being the newest ones. There are tons of sellers (dealers) on ebay that just pick up stuff from the mint, and resell it or slab it, then resell it. The quantity available has nothing to do with rarity in this case.

I'm sure others will weigh in here with their opinions, too.
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 Posted 03/15/2007  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will agree with AuldFartte. To me, other than a very attractive design (or more precisely an old time-tested), there is nothing rare about 2007 gold buffalo bullions, which are available now. I will wait and see the BU W as us mint promised, which I think will have lower mintage similar to BU W 2006 AGE.
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 Posted 03/15/2007  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dockwalliper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The '06 mintage was high because it was the first year of issue. The '07 final mintage is still unknown but should be smaller than the '06. Both are still available on the mint site(proofs).
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 Posted 03/15/2007  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add monster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another thing, don't fall for the "First day release" or "First Strike". Those are stuffs, nothing more than money suckers. If you buy it for little over spot, go for it as gold investion. As coins, you have better choices.
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 Posted 03/15/2007  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your help. I am interested in the buffalo gold because I can get the 2 coins so far, and add to my collection each year, instead of trying to get key coins of other types, that can be extremely hard to find. Does this make sense?
Thanks again,
vincent


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 Posted 03/15/2007  1:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Vincent and welcome to the forum!

Keep in mind that the Buffalo gold bullion coins will probably never have much of a numismatic value(I assume you are referring to the uncirculated investment version, not the proof collector version), their value will always be closely tied to the price of gold.
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 Posted 03/15/2007  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that because there are so many minted? Is there a modern coin that would be better to collect?
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 Posted 03/15/2007  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ichirensha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Vincent and welcome to the forum. For some reason writing in all capital letters is considered yelling and is frowned upon. Just a friendly heads up...enjoy the forum and try to remember to type in lower case.
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 Posted 03/15/2007  2:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry about the caps lock. I can type faster that way. It won't happen again. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I wasn't familar with standards.
Love the sight appeciate all the advice
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 Posted 03/15/2007  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not a problem. We're glad you joined and hope you will just relax and enjoy yourself. I fixed your post above.

To answer your question, I personally do feel that the modern coinage is a good investment. If you like the designs and want to collect them for that reason and just to enjoy them, that's different. Most modern coinage is being produced in too great of a quantity to really appreciate (though there have been individual dates and mints of certain series that have increased quite a bit.)

It doesn't help that the Mint cannot be counted on to stick to their original mintage figures. On several occasions now, they have stated that certain sets would be limited in numbers and then have begun producing them again as they realized that they could still make a profit since the demand was so high.

As a result, I would recommend older gold and silver in collectable grades. These will cost you a little more now, but I think they will continue to increase in value. More and more people are getting involved in numismatics as a result of the State Quarters, Buffalo, Peace, and Keelboat nickels, and the Presidential dollars. I believe that those people who then decide that numismatics really interests them will then turn to the classics. As more and more do this, I believe the value of the older coins will rise considerably.

We have already seen this with the old, large copper coins. Morgan dollars in circulated grades have risen quite a bit also. Just something to think about.
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 Posted 03/15/2007  3:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I spent my entire childhood collecting baseball cards. I did that because I loved them. Now I recognize the beauty in certain coins and would like to start collecting. My baseball cards are worth not much.
I would not want to see my coins being worth the same or even less 10yrs from now.Although I could still enjoy having them, it would bother me to have them not be worth much. Any advice?
Vincent
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 Posted 03/16/2007  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tykimeister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your concerns make perfect sense. It looks like your planning on paying some good money for nice coins. Look at the prices of gold and silver in the past 10 years. 10 years ago silver was below $4 an ounce. Gold was under $200 an ounce. Does a 100 to 200 percent profit sound good to you? Or would you rather try investing in a savings account? I think you get the point...

Also, key date coins are also good investments. For example, a 1916 D Mercury dime. In Very Good condition it will cost you $1200 or more. I am extremely confident that this coin will do noting BUT increase over time. It's just so popular and needed in so many differnt ways. If you could buy this coin in Fine or better condition, the profit will be even more. The the initial investment will cost quite a bit more.
Just my opinion,
Ty
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 Posted 03/16/2007  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My first gold coin was a 1900 $5 gold piece. Cost me $19.95 in 1964.

I think gold is still a great investment. My wife just bought a $2 1/2 Indian, and I think it will do nothing but appreciate it value.

By the way, Welcome to the greatest coin forum on the internet!!
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 Posted 03/16/2007  04:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Modern gold coins are often overpriced and if you are very unlucky, the Mint could just overhype it and sell it way too high. The consequences is that over time, prices go down, even lower than original mint issued prices at times!

Gary - definately a nice price that you paid for gold back then!
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 Posted 03/17/2007  02:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I want to thank all for your help!!! I do want to spend alittle to get semi-rare, high quality coins, but the choices are over whelming and like I said before, I am qite novice.
Thanks
Vince
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