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Seated Liberty Half Dollar With Stamp

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A friend of mine has a 1854 (o) Seated Liberty half dollar with an unusual stamp on it. Between the liberty's head and her flag there is a number "345" stamped on it. We cannot find any mention of such a anomily anywhere. Can anyone explain it. Thank you
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odds are its counterstamped.
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I moved your welcome post to the 'Classic US coins' forum for the proper attention.
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post some pics and that will help tremendously

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We'd love to see pictures of your Half Dollar!

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Someone at some time many, many years ago took some metal number stamps and stamped 345 on the obverse of the coin.

Why We will never know why as these sort of stampings were rarely recorded and even if they were it would be virtually impossible to trace not knowing who and why it was done in the first place.

The numbers stamped in it are considered post mint damage and perhaps a collector of counter stamped coins might be interested in it.

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w/ Gyrene7483. It was definitely counterstamped for some reason... date code, room #, etc... It would be impossible to know for sure.

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first attempt to upload image of the 345 stamp. Has anyone seen something like this? or heard of a 345 stamp like this?
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its the 345 yo...

who knows why but its there

you'll have to find a counter-stamped lover to get the real premium out of it if resale is your end desire

its unique

i'd love to see the full obverse and reverse to really soak it in and enjoy it

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Could have been a CSA regiment...just a thought :)
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DSFreeworld, here are the front and back pics. there is another stamp under the eagle's right wing.
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It's possible the 4 punches under the eagle's wing were done by whoever counterstamped the 345... It's a very interesting coin. There's definitely some "history" behind this coin, but we'll never know what/why. That's why I love collecting
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That's a bizarre O.
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"345" is a symbol in the Masonic Order....Google it. The four marks on the reverse were likely where a pin was attached to the back of the coin. You can see where the metal is displaced all point to the center of the four marks which indicate something that "clamped" onto the coin.
If you notice...the area inside the base of the "345", the flag pole, and the "shoulder/neck" make a right triangle....which also reflect the Masonic imagery and the 345 reference. It is not just a coincidence.
This was likely a lapel pin that a Mason wore on his clothing.
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I tend to agree with unholyroller on this one. It was probably used as a pin and thats probably what caused the holes in the Reverse and he is probably correct about the masonic order number
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