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Valued Member
United States
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I don't know when plastic was invented, but I was wondering how they stored and preserved coins in the 1800's ? There are coins from the 1800's with full bright mint luster so I am really curious. Most silver will tone rather quickly when exposed to air. Any insights , ideas , or theories ?
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Valued Member
United States
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I believe a lot were kept in wooden drawers like dressers, chests and desks. Which also constitutes the term "cabinet friction".
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Vanbroj does make a valid point though....antique furniture dealers always look for properly oxidized ( patina ) surfaces on secondary wood so just storing them in a drawer wouldn't keep them from toning up. In fact I would think that outgassing from the wood resins and finish would give fumes that would speed up toning. Makes me think that just about any pre-20th century silver coin in un-toned or un-tarnished condition and "mint new" have likely been dipped or cleaned. I mean heck...grandmas sterling teapots would turn black in a few years...so why not the coins?
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Valued Member
United States
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I was just answering the "how they were stored" question. As far as toning or tarnish, any coin that is 100 years old and bright white, I have a hard time believing it's in its natural skin.
Edited by LogPotato 09/26/2012 11:25 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: There are coins from the 1800's with full bright mint luster so I am really curious. Honestly like mentioned I think those coins have just been cleaned. Its hard to believe a coin went 200 something years raw without someone cleaning it along the way. In fact in the older days way back when cleaning was the preferred thing to do to coins to get them to look nicer
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well, I can't speak for most denominations, but I know that original rolls of Indian Head cents have been found. After being cracked open, they appear as bright as the day they were born. There are a couple known "drawer" specimens that retained luster. Usually, the inside of drawers are raw and the wood is very dry... especially in antique furniture, built when chemical wooden treatments were not used. It is very likely that these acted as humidors. Also, jars of coins and bags have been discovered. Quite stunning that the King of Siam set was in such fantastic shape. 
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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A lot of the best coins were wrapped in tissue paper, and later on, in celophane.
Museums store their coins in trays in cabinets. I consider that to be an antiquated approach, with cabinet friction, and gassing out of animal glue over decades, being a problem.
I you want to be serious there are better approaches available to the modern coin collector. Screw capsules and slabbing come to mind.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't know about the 1800's, but the 'good old days', well we could argue when that was  My grandfather had a small collection of coins (most of which are now being held by me) were in a small leather pouch with a leather drawstring. I can still remember the excitement of this 10 year old boy when my dad used to pour them on the floor and let me look at them. All dark and tarnished, gummy and oozing with old leather and coin odor.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As far as tarnish goes, I have dug up silver coins that were as bright as any you would see anywhere. I can't think of any silver coin I have dug up that was tarnished, unless maybe it was already tarnished when it went in the ground.
Also back in the day a lot of coins were placed in Mason jars and sealed with wax and then buried. Now I realized that this was not done with an eye to collecting coins. However, when they were dug up 20 to 100 years later many were preserved for one reason or another.
Coins in desk drawers that were covered by papers or clothes did not have too much contact with air and sunlight or water vapor. I also collect "paper' and paper stored in such a manner can be really awesome.
My Gr Gr Grandfather was a coin collector, he was born in 1790. His collection was in a series of wood cases with glass tops and velvet or cotton cloth on the bottom. The coins were displayed raw on top of the cloth. Some coins had little boxes like ring boxes that you would get from a jeweler. I saw a stella once that was in such a box that had the words "Happy Birthday" embossed on them.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I put an old 1896 Morgan in a wedding ring box 40 years ago. It has beautiful toning now.
Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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