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I did a double take on the title of this thread. There's a big difference between "german silver" and a "german minted fine silver bar". The term "german silver" refers to a copper, nickel, and zinc alloy that was developed as a silver substitute in the 19th century. However, based on the ebay description and unholyroller's helpful link to the german mint, this appears to be a really interesting fine silver bar.  |
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Thanks guys. I set the title like that to try and grab attention.  I was just actually trying to see if any one had personal experiance with this bar. Edited by samsnate
10/03/2012 04:22 am
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1 oz Fine Silber!  Looks cool though |
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Actually, it's not made of silver. As clearly marked on the bar, it was the personal property of this guy... |
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1 oz Fine Silber! Isn't silber german for silver? I would find it interesting if a German bar said silver instead of silber. I don't like the polished look on the 1845 side though. |
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this is a collectors bar from this company: ESG Edelmetall-Service ESG Edelmetall-Service GmbH & Co. KG Gewerbering 29b D-76287 Rheinstetten barren.de is a german website from the company - http://www.barren.de/SILBER is the german word for SILVER and means not that this bar belongs to mr.silber! german silver is called NEUSILBER in germany and contains of course no silver. on german ingots is always written Silber, Gold or Platin (instead of Platinum) this collectors bar is made of cast silver and not struck like a coin. normally only a small range of collectors bars, the 250gr 500gr. and 1000gr. and heavier bars were produced that way, the smaller ones are produced like coins. |
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I think barryg is having a bit of fun with us.  Silber (the precious metal, not former president of Boston University) is indeed "silver" in german. |
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Platinrubel welcome to the sight and some seriously STRONG info thanks!!
I like these bars, cool shape and look, and no doubt even in German when you see.999 you are good baring a fake piece, lol. Easy now Silverdollar, back up a bit this bad boy is real, jk buddy, lol....
CURIOUS, what is the German historical connection to the smelter on the back and the date 1845?
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10/03/2012 1:58 pm
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I gotta say I am impressed with this company and like these pieces, check out the gold, including a dividable 50 gram gold bar.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-gram-Gol...em5aea38b54fOr like the silber bar..... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-OZ-Gold-b...em257607d6beI think ones biggest issue on re-sale on these, is the TRUST factor. After seeing their sight, and realizing I don't here about many con artists making fake pmz coming out of Germany, probably a pretty safe investment, but convincing an American buyer of that is a whole different ball of wax.... The seller has many strong feed-backs with no negs and with ebay BUYER PROTECTION I worry about zero on ebay purchases anymore, even with foreign purchases. May take a bit, but you can always get your money back even from bay if you did get a fake bar. Prove to bay its fake, you will get your money back. Via a written disclaimer from a reputable jewelry or coin dealer that the item in question is fake.... Edited by Silverhawk74
10/03/2012 2:07 pm
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1845 is the year when the refining-company "heimerle & meule" was founded. on their website, on the left side you will find the logo of them. its the same as on the bar. http://www.heimerle-meule.com/background: heimerle-meule and ESG Edelmetall-Service GmbH & Co. KG are founders of http://www.barren.de.this is a joint-venture for selling bars and coins etc |
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Actually, it's not made of silver. As clearly marked on the bar, it was the personal property of this guy... Interesting. Does this mean that all of the "silver" we've bought actually belongs to Long John Silver, the pirate? |
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Any silber is good silber! That's what I always say. It's over spot, but if its really 200 years old its cool :)
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Ok so through all that....this bar IS? in fact 1oz .999% pure silver? At least after this thread and checking out the websites, that's the way I see it. Though like silverhawk74 said, just never considered buying anything German because of the trust factor.
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10/06/2012 5:40 pm
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I don't think this bar's German origin is the problem. I'm sure the Germans are more than capable of minting excellent quality .999 Ag bullion products. The only "trust" factor I see is that these bars are relatively unknown here in the North American market. If I were currently more in "collecting" mode, I might consider picking on up one of these bars to educate myself. However, I'm "stacking" now and buying the tried and true ASE's and CSM's is all I care about. |
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