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Double Struck Lincoln Memorial Cent

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 Posted 10/09/2012  10:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add still lookin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just found the below pictured cent. Opinions and ideas please. There are two separate images of both the obverse and reverse of the coin. It appears to have struck twice with some rotation on the second strike. You can see a second date below the word Liberty on the obverse. Thanks for your input.

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 Posted 10/09/2012  10:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it looks like a double struck rotated in collar error. Much of the original detail was preserved which certainly helps with value. Nice coin.
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 Posted 10/09/2012  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like the real deal to me. Nice find!

But I will wait for the LMC experts here to chime in.
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 Posted 10/09/2012  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! That is one awesome error! How much would somethign like that be worth?
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My opinion: WOWIE!
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Very nice! I like it!
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I agree, its not a vise job (where two coins are smashed together with a vice) as the second design would be mirrored instead of like yours is showing. I believe it is legit. I am not an error expert so please don't go on my word alone but I don't see any evidence of it being anything but a true error
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Now I want one.
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Put it on ebay for $1,000,000.00 like everyone else does....
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@wert

hahahaha!
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I've got one similar. I always thought Die Clash?
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If it was double stuck in the collar, wouldn't the second striking be much stronger? How could it be so faint?

I see the word GOD on the obverse, around 3:00, and it isn't inverted, so it looks double struck, but why so faint.

The other thing that is strange, is that the second strike on the obverse is rotated about 120 degrees clockwise, where as the reverse is rotated about 240 degrees clockwise. On the reverse, you can see TES of states at 8:00, for the second strike.

For a die clash, it is when both dies hit each other, with no planchet in between, so the obverse design would appear on the reverse die and vice versa. And then that gets transferred to the coin, so it isn't a die clash.
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The original photos that I took of this coin were 6 mega pixels. By the time I had to reduce them to under 100,000 bytes a lot of the detail was left off. Actually Liberty running down the forehead of Lincoln is quit strong. Also Trust is mostly visible at the bottom of the jacket. On the reverse most of the United State of America is visible from the original strike.

The reverse has a rather large die crack starting from the 9th column running up to what is left of the "o" in of. This same die crack can me seen on the coin starting on the 3rd column running into the 2nd bay for the original strike. Evidently some of these type errors can be struck with two different die pairs, but this one is struck with the same die pair.

It would be interesting to find another regular 1996 cent struck with the same die crack.

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If it was double stuck in the collar, wouldn't the second striking be much stronger? How could it be so faint?


The faint strike is the primary strike while the stronger one is the secondary strike.


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The other thing that is strange, is that the second strike on the obverse is rotated about 120 degrees clockwise, where as the reverse is rotated about 240 degrees clockwise.

The second strike on the obverse is rotated ~120 degrees counterclockwise while the reverse is rotated ~120 degrees clockwise. The rotations are in agreement when you consider the coin alignment of the two sides in relation to each other.
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Mr Diamond has an interesting and informative article on the web about such coins. Go to google and type in: diamond double struck in collar. It should be the top choice. The article indicates that most of the time very little if any of the original design is usaully left on a double struck coin, if I read the article correctly.

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Mike is a member here on CCF. You might want to PM him for his input.
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