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Rather than rewrite the same post that I recently put on CoinTalk, I hope the moderators here allow me to post a link to that post. http://www.cointalk.com/t214190/I am an active member of CCF, mostly lurking in the Canadian sections. I recently published a paper on the Canadian 'brown nickels' from 1982-1992, and I am now finding similar types of coins in Liberty, Buffalo and Jefferson strikes. I am soliciting members who may have such coins, to let me borrow (or buy) them for non-destructive XRF analysis. I intend to publish those results, probably in CONECA's journal. Feel free to send me a message, if you have such a coin, and want a free analysis of it (free here means, you get a copy of the results, the catch is I get to publish those results). "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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10/27/2012 1:00 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I'll look out for one for you, although my chances of finding one is low!
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 Canada
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Dealer's junk bins (low grades) is where I found mine... they stick out like a sore thumb in the mass of dull grey nickels....
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I read your link; sounds very interesting. Over Christmas I'll be looking through tens of pounds of nickels. I'll keep an eye out and let you know if I find any.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have looked through 200,000 nickels and don't remember finding one. I probably did and just through it back. But if I do find one I will make sure you know about it!
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United States
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I've read, the source I don't recall, that nickels will turn brown when they are cleaned and pennies are included in the batch. The warning was to always clean pennies separate from all other coins or the pennies will cause the other coins to turn brown. I go through 1 - 2 boxes of nickels a week and I nearly always see multiple brown nickels.
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United States
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I have several of them ... over the course of 258,600 nickels searched I have accumulated a small mini-set of USA brown Jefferson nickels. Discounting the obvious ground finds and environmental damaged coins ... believe I have several that meet your criteria. Set them aside for no reason other than they were unusual ... David Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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Canada
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nickelsearcher, any chance I could borrow your collection of brown nickels for analysis? You'll get the exact composition, and I'll get some very important data for a paper I am working on. This paper will require extra efforts to convince the die-hards that this phenomena is not just from "being in the ground". So far, I have found brown: - 1908 Liberty nickel (~79% Cu) - 1924 Buffalo nickel (~82% Cu) - 1936 Buffalo nickel (~79% Cu) - 1940 Jefferson nickel (~82% Cu) - 1953 Jefferson nickel (~78% Cu) A coin dealer in Vancouver just sent me a 1939 brown Jefferson nickel. I definitely need more if I am to have a statistically valid dataset. Send me a PM if interested - several senior members, and even some of the forum administrators, can vouch for me.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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12/23/2012 10:48 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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SPP... Would it be possible to get a pic of a small group of these nickels together? The reason I ask is b/c I would like to know if there is much variance in the color from one to the other. I have gone over a ton of nickels in my life (grandfather owned a laundromat business) and I am certain at sometime I must have seen one of these. However, I probably attributed it to PMD like if damage or something since I know this can discolor coins significantly. I would like to be on the lookout for these now - although I no longer go through volumes of nickels. Also, would not an easy way to determine one be to set up a simplistic balance where a normal nickel would be on one side and the brown on the other? Or would the weight different not be enough to really tell? I think this research you are doing is a great ides and something fun to do. |
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I also have searched through a lot of nickels. If I have found any before I have, like others, attributed the discoloration to PMD and sent them on their way. I'll be on the look out for them in the future. I would also like to see a comparison of a "Brown" nickel next to a "Normal" nickel if possible. |
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United States
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I've got a 1918 here that's a very deep brown. Since it's a duplicate, I've tried acetone, Tarnex (I know - a no no), to no avail, and it's now been soaking in Verdi-Care for several days. When I remove it I'll let you know if it changed at all (doesn't look like it so far).
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United States
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Appears that I lost track of this thread ... however, still interested in the research that you are doing.
I will go through my stash and let you know what I find ...
David
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Canada
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I'll try to get a photo up sometime this week...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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United States
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New Member
United States
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Sorry it's a 1991-P Jefferson
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have one in my possession but I think it may be enviromental damage. I have a second set aside some where that may not be enviromental damage. Both are Jefferson nickels. A photo of what you are looking for would be helpful to me also. I know I have seen more of them but I always assumed they were PMD. After digging a bunch of nickels from the ground (yeah, no discrimination because I'm looking for the rings), I am thinking the ground damage looks slightly different. On a side note, I find it rather funny that the nay-sayer on the other forum has meadwad as his avator. Rather fitting. |
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