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I have several of them ... over the course of 258,600 nickels searched I have accumulated a small mini-set of USA brown Jefferson nickels. Discounting the obvious ground finds and environmental damaged coins ... believe I have several that meet your criteria. Set them aside for no reason other than they were unusual ... David |
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 Canada
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nickelsearcher, any chance I could borrow your collection of brown nickels for analysis? You'll get the exact composition, and I'll get some very important data for a paper I am working on. This paper will require extra efforts to convince the die-hards that this phenomena is not just from "being in the ground". So far, I have found brown: - 1908 Liberty nickel (~79% Cu) - 1924 Buffalo nickel (~82% Cu) - 1936 Buffalo nickel (~79% Cu) - 1940 Jefferson nickel (~82% Cu) - 1953 Jefferson nickel (~78% Cu) A coin dealer in Vancouver just sent me a 1939 brown Jefferson nickel. I definitely need more if I am to have a statistically valid dataset. Send me a PM if interested - several senior members, and even some of the forum administrators, can vouch for me.
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12/23/2012 10:48 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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SPP... Would it be possible to get a pic of a small group of these nickels together? The reason I ask is b/c I would like to know if there is much variance in the color from one to the other. I have gone over a ton of nickels in my life (grandfather owned a laundromat business) and I am certain at sometime I must have seen one of these. However, I probably attributed it to PMD like if damage or something since I know this can discolor coins significantly. I would like to be on the lookout for these now - although I no longer go through volumes of nickels. Also, would not an easy way to determine one be to set up a simplistic balance where a normal nickel would be on one side and the brown on the other? Or would the weight different not be enough to really tell? I think this research you are doing is a great ides and something fun to do. |
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United States
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I also have searched through a lot of nickels. If I have found any before I have, like others, attributed the discoloration to PMD and sent them on their way. I'll be on the look out for them in the future. I would also like to see a comparison of a "Brown" nickel next to a "Normal" nickel if possible. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've got a 1918 here that's a very deep brown. Since it's a duplicate, I've tried acetone, Tarnex (I know - a no no), to no avail, and it's now been soaking in Verdi-Care for several days. When I remove it I'll let you know if it changed at all (doesn't look like it so far).
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United States
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Appears that I lost track of this thread ... however, still interested in the research that you are doing.
I will go through my stash and let you know what I find ...
David
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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Canada
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I'll try to get a photo up sometime this week...
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United States
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New Member
United States
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Sorry it's a 1991-P Jefferson
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have one in my possession but I think it may be enviromental damage. I have a second set aside some where that may not be enviromental damage. Both are Jefferson nickels. A photo of what you are looking for would be helpful to me also. I know I have seen more of them but I always assumed they were PMD. After digging a bunch of nickels from the ground (yeah, no discrimination because I'm looking for the rings), I am thinking the ground damage looks slightly different. On a side note, I find it rather funny that the nay-sayer on the other forum has meadwad as his avator. Rather fitting. |
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United States
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I found one a little while ago but I dont know if it's rust or the composition make up....   Oregon coin geek.....*** GO BEAVS ! ! ! ***
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Canada
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I just tested a 1939 Jefferson nickel, with over 84% Cu... nice chocolate brown coin, VF grade. I'll try to get some photos done this week... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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United States
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Are you looking for this sort of thing? The brown is a nice even chocolate color, especially on the obverse. But, because of the terrible condition of the reverse, I say environmental damage is likely the cause. My scale says 5.1g.   Considering it cost me just $0.05, I'm willing to scratch it up, or whatever. |
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United States
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Here's a buffalo with a heavy brown patina  |
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Valued Member
United States
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Hello SPP.....I was wondering if I could send you two USA coins for your analysis. I am interested in seeing what their metal composition is. I am thinking they might be wrong planchet error coins but they also may be just struck on rolled thin planchets. Look forward to hearing from you soon.
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